FT2, why not do a proper analysis of a week or two weeks of requests at the admin and other noticeboards, to get some concrete figures, and not just a general feeling?
Carcharoth
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM, FT2ft2.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
I wouldn't be so quick to call it nuisance. We have thousands of active users, hundreds of thousands of occasional users, and a wide range of warriors, promoters, and people who don't get the plot (or would rather not do so). There's a very wide range of reasons someone might want an administrator to help, and most users aren't admins.
There will be a constant flow of misplaced, bad faith or confused requests, but many of those may yet have a fair right to be asked.
Far more so, there is a far larger flow of completely legitimate and reasonable requests for admin help. I wouldn't call it "nuisance", as if it's just an undesirable annoyance. Its a result of being the size of the user base that even a tiny proportion validly seeking admin help might add up to hundreds a day.
FT2
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
People need a single main point of contact for problems; If we removed AN/I, then the confused complaints would come to AN. If we could keep all the miscellaneous nuisance contained within AN/I, that would be helpful, large as it might get.
The various specific boards for reporting problems, SPI in particular, are more apt to confuse new people than guide them in the right direction
On 7/23/09, Alex Sawczynec glasscobra15@gmail.com wrote:
Probably due in no small part to the fact that AN is the official "administrator's board," while ANI is the incidents board, the "i'm
telling
on you" board where any user can report any perceived threats. Just tends
to
lead to more outrageous, drama-inducing posts, I'd wager.
- GlassCobra
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:34 AM, FT2 ft2.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Some off-wiki response-seeking...
A couple of comments at the administrator's noticeboard (AN) about the quality of ANI discussion have led to a short post on-wiki asking for perceptions:
A user's suggested in passing in an AN discussion, that they feel there can be issues at ANI:
- *"For whatever reason, discussions at WP:AN seem to be a little more calm and rational than ANI"* - *"ANI is a bit like throwing chum into a pool of sharks. It's
just
the mentality there"* - *"AN doesn't seem to attract as many drama seekers [as ANI]"*
Quick feedback: some truth to it? A lot? Not much?
A simple request for thoughts.
Since ANI and VP tend to be followed by more experienced users and
admins,
I'm posting it on the en mailing list to increase the exposure and odds
of
feedback being given from non-admins. Link to on-wiki post<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#AN... < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Administrators%27_noticeboard#AN...
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