On 4/1/07, doc doc.wikipedia@ntlworld.com wrote:
John Lee wrote:
On 3/31/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
on 3/31/07 10:43 AM, Ken Arromdee at arromdee@rahul.net wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007, Marc Riddell wrote:
This is in response to several recent posts. For the record, the
concept of
"do no harm" I was presenting to in WP was related to what
information
we,
as editors, choose to include in biographies of persons. My point was
that
to consciously include gratuitous, tabloid-like junk in a
biographical
article is unnecessarily harmful to the person.
"Do no harm" and "do no unnecessary harm" are *vastly* different.
Harm - in any form - no matter how it is phrased - should be
unacceptable.
Marc
If I'm not mistaken, there is a lot of bitterness in the Armenian
community
about the Turkish genocide. Doesn't having an article about the Turkish massacre of the Armenians harm the Turks by supporting the Armenian bitterness against the Turks? Hell, doesn't having any article which objectively states facts that aren't to the liking of somebody harm that entity?
I still fail to see why "Do no harm" should be elevated to the status of
a
pillar of WP, or above that. It's a good principle, but if it means
throwing
out NPOV or accuracy, I know what I'd go with.
Johnleemk
This is ridiculous. I did not suggest 'do no harm' was to be a pillar of wikipedia. I merely suggested that when we are considering policies for improving wikipedia, that simply looking to what might get us sued is insufficient. We should also consider organising ourselves to minimise the damage we may do to individuals by having POV articles, attack pages, or allowing malicious people to post any crap about them. Here we have a moral as well as a legal responsibility to minimise harm. We are human beings, we don't need [[Wikipedia:TheSermonOnTheMount]] to tell us that thinking about others, and the impact our project has on them, is a Good Thing. Doc
I wasn't responding specifically to you - I was responding to Marc, who seems to think otherwise.
Johnleemk