There is no GFDL issue relative to [[WP:OURS]] that is a seperate issue having to do with a sser page that Resid Gulerdem was editing on via anon IPs despite his blocked status. [[WP:OURS]] was proposed here on the mailing list by Resid Gulerdem, shortly afterwards Raphael Wegmann posted Resid Gulerdem's policy proposal entitled Wikipedia:OURS [[WP:OURS]]. Raphael did mention adding some text to it but the fact remains that the policy was created by Resid Gulerdem so in creating the policy proposal on Wikipedia, Raphael created a page on Resid Gulerdem's behalf (he acted as his proxy). The question of what Raphael Wegmann would have to do to make the policy proposal truly his own is a bit esoteric. But naming it the same thing as what Resid Gulerdem named it and it having primarily text in it that Resid Gulerdem himself added is essentially a proxy maneuver on Wegmann's part. Any other questions?
-Scott Stevenson
On 6/6/06, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/6/06, Scott Stevenson wikinetscott@gmail.com wrote:
George Willaim Herbert, While I understand your concerns about "thougthcrime" the only precedent that might exist here is that a page created by a banned user through proxy was deleted. Pages created by banned users can be speedy deleted under [[WP:CSD#General_criteria]] general criteria #5. Discussion about a proposal isn't verboten (and in fact on one of the the original threads started
by
Resid Gulerdem there is indeed a very lively ongoing discussion). Hope that helps you to better understand this.
I understand the policy, but the effect is apparently to limit that discussion to Wikien-L and not on WP itself.
Is that the (big picture) right thing to do?
Would Raphael paraphrasing the whole WP:OURS page instead of just cutting and pasting it get around the current GFDL issue, or is the very existence of a WP:OURS page forbidden forever now since Resid got himself banned, requiring a retitle as well? If Raphael retitled and paraphrased/rewrote from scratch the proposal, would that still be banned in your interpretation?
Again, this commentary is NOT any kind of support for WP:OURS. I'm just uncomfortable with how the proposal's being treated at the moment.
-- -george william herbert gherbert@retro.com / george.herbert@gmail.com _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l