Yes, I think you sum up the basic issues pretty well, Puddle Duk. But I can think of certain specific reasons for why the approaches you've represented have had only tepid support. I understand the idealistic notions underlying the Wikipedia 1.0 idea, but the concept of 'article validation' is only one aspect of the overall value metrics that need to be worked out:
The relationship between article valuation (AV) and editorial valuation (EV), though distinct enough to be treated as separate, are far too interdependent to be considered unrelated. And relevant to this discussion, AV and EV aren't even operable without the other, IMHO. The current idea seems to be a confusing mixture of both AV and EV questions, but one which ignores or avoids utilizing any synergy between the two, and avoids EV ratings entirely. Hence, where's the Yin-Yang?
With the final plans for Single Log-in being ironed out, the next big thing wants to be AV/EV, but convincing critics seems to depend on establishing a clear plan for how the internals will work. Some explanations of likely heuristic approaches would help, and some consensus towards a general direction might also help. IMHO, the 'lets mine this turnip and hope we find gold' approach won't work. It's a Murphy's Law, or something like it. Testing to see what crap floats is indeed only useful for Calvinball.
That's the value-context for any critical comments here, be it coming from a developer or not. Criticism brings things to focus.
-SV
--- Puddl Duk puddlduk@gmail.com wrote:
some predictions and some comments that relate to
above;
- the current validate feature is a prototype
design. Once it is
turned on it will be played with, improved, revised
and redesigned
several times before being used for its intended
purpose. Turning on
the feature will help this process move forward.
- Wikipedia needs a way to identify article
versions that are high quality and vetted, possible as part of a release
system, or something
similiar. Reliability is one of our biggest problems. If we don't address this someone else will. A validation feature
if a good first step.
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