On 10/3/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
When people fight for the inclusion of websites and webcomics (for example) it's more of a vanity issue. It may be verifiable and presented in an NPOV manner, but the fact they're trying to get a comic/site with a tiny audience into a general purpose encyclopedia is POV too, an attempt at promotion.
Surely third-party verifiability takes care of this one. If someone else cares to write something verifiable about it, it should get in.
My point is that far too often, it's not "someone else" doing the writing. Hence the use of the word vanity.
If this is true in general of non-notability deletion listings of articles about comics, bands, schools and whatnot, it's news to me. Are you absolutely *sure* that non-notability deletions on Wikipedia are usually simply because the person writing the article is not a third party but is someone associated with their production, operation or distribution? Because that's what you seem to be saying.