--- geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/23/05, Brian Haws brian@bhaws.com wrote:
But eventualism does support a tag and bag system...during high volume periods, if garbage
gets
through, the vast majority of it will end up in
orphan
or lonelypage special pages. Now, there's a large backlog there but they are filtered in that way
and
can be examined, they are not lost in the vastness
of
Wikipedia. (if I understand those special pages correctly)
No it doesn't since eventualism position allows you to conclude there is nothing to be lost by deleting rubish
There is nothing to be lost by deleting rubbish...
I see invalid speedy deletions everytime I look,
valid
content is lost, good new users are confused,
annoyed
and in some cases lost. If we're not going to
honor
speedy criteria then why even have them?
I gives people a lovely warm feeling.
Garbage content hurts us as does losing valid
content...but we
have control over deleting garbage...once good
content
is lost, for the most part it's just gone, we
don't
know when or if we'll ever get it back...
Eventualism means that you don't have to worry about when and juding by the number of new pages that surface on my watchlist there is no real question of if.
What I mean is that we have no control over the addition of a certain topic. If someone adds a page on some city in Italy and it gets deleted, we have no idea when or if it'll be added again....
I think there's a way to make tag and bag work if
we
want to, keeping encyclodpedic content is what
we're
supposed to be doing...anyway, sorry for the
rant....
Encyclodpedic content is a subjective term and therefor useless.
It is subjective to a certain degree, everyone has a slightly different idea of what it means, but the fact remains that our job is adding content that the community generally considers valid to wikipedia...
-- geni
The point is that high volume isn't a reason not to use tag and bag. If garbage gets by the first line of RC patrol, we still know where to look for it. And in the meantime we aren't deleting as much valid content, as defined by what doesn't fit speedy criteria. It may or may not get by AFD, but at least there are more eyes on it...as there should be on speedies....
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