On 10/11/07, James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com wrote:
[Incidentally, Fred, your quoting seems to have broken.]
On 12/10/2007, fredbaud@waterwiki.info fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Those who are engaging in this discussion in good faith are concerned with those questions. But those who advanced "Bad Sites" were certainly not. They were trying to confuse the issue.
Was not the whole point of WP:BADSITES simply to codify in /de jure/ policy the /de facto/ policy that is already implemented, for certain value of badsite at least?
Except that there is not anything approaching consensus on what to do about links to external sites.
There's a small area of black, a large white pool, and a whole end of the pool in grey in which long-time admins are willing to go to war over something.
This is a legitimate serious policy and values issue - if it was not, even skilled troublemakers would never have been able to create as much drama inside the Wikipedia community. We have to be very careful about who we define as an enemy, in the context of this discussion...