Todd Allen wrote:
doc wrote:
Trebor Rowntree wrote:
On 5/24/07, doc doc.wikipedia@ntlworld.com wrote:
- And this is important - although Smith and Lewinsky
are only notable for one thing - the fact that Lewinsky's life has been so public means we can write a full balanced biography for her. He bio want say "she sucked Clinton's cock" it will say something about her background, career, life after the incident - in short we get the whole person. One incident yes - but that's given us enough sources to write the biography. We have no sources to write a biography on Smith (and if we find out any more it is likely to be OR) - only to record an incident. That's not a biography.
But in cases like these (for private individuals), BLP actually says to include "*only* material relevant to their notability." As David Gerard said, including things like someone's GPA is absurd and unnecessary f that has no relevance to that person's fame. But aiming to write a full balanced biography directly opposes including only material relevant to notability. Which are we supposed to be doing? _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Monica's whole life is notable - there are basted biographies on her. There may be 'the incident' but the incident has made her whole life a notable, sources and verifiable story. We can write a biography. The same is true for the Olympic medal winner - notable only for winning medals, but because of that, a lot of biographical details that are otherwise notable, are already recorded in good sources.
But if the notability refers only to the incident and nothing else has really been recorded by good sources - then all we can write about is the incident - then we can't write a biography.
A good thing to ask yourself is: if this person died tomorrow, would any newspaper, or important publication in the subject area, print an obituary. If the answer is 'No - no chance' then we probably should not have a biography.
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I'm not sure that's a very good way to do it. Newspapers will print an obituary of damn near anyone.
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I didn't say if they would have a biography - we should have a bio. But if they wouldn't, we certainly shouldn't.
Twins switched a birth won't have an obituary 80 years later. And I'd seriously doubt Brian P would either. Serious newspapers anyway.