The entire deletion system is in a very bad state. This is nothing new - VFD has always had problems, and in the last 3-4 years, it's only gotten worse. It's our biggest PR problem. And I mean that: it's a bigger problem for our image than bad bios (though much less likely to cause legal trouble). Every use of "non-notable", "vanity", or "unencyclopedic" on VFD has hurt Wikipedia. Webcomics suffer the worst of it, but it's widespread and longstanding. Plus, the last few years have seen countless layers of procedure and rules encrustation on the original structure, making it more inconsistent and nonsensical. A newcomer can make no sense of the system at all, not even bringing the insanity of DRV into it.
I increasingly think we need to just nuke the whole deletion system. Unless there's sensitive content (personal information, etc.) or copyright violations that need to be removed from article history, just fix, stub, substub, or blank it (in order of decreasing preference).
-- Jake Nelson [[en:User:Jake Nelson]]
On 2/24/07, Han Dao wikipediankiba@gmail.com wrote:
As evidence that the webcomic community is fed up with this.
Basically a webcomic encyclopedia. Started in response to en.wikipedia.orgabritary deletions.
I think the problem is experts/lack of experts. Experts probably know the subject area and can probably make better judgement calls than the layman. But we got mostly layman who don't know much about webcomics saying delete, non-notable.
On 2/24/07, Phil Sandifer Snowspinner@gmail.com wrote:
On Feb 24, 2007, at 9:35 PM, William Pietri wrote:
Putting them all at the top of an article made sense early on, when the ratio of editors to readers was higher. But at some point, wouldn't we want to hide more of the plumbing where the average reader never sees it unless the go looking?
Yes - absolutely. But on the other hand, we should take a long, hard look at the plumbing - I'm unconvinced that it would pass health inspections, to continue your restaurant metaphor.
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