On 6/16/07, Slim Virgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/16/07, Steve Summit scs@eskimo.com wrote:
Slim Virgin wrote:
On 6/16/07, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
It's not hypocrisy to violate one policy yet want to be in a position to enforce others.
It's hard to think of a clearer example of hypocrisy than trying to stop others from doing what you insist on being allowed to do yourself, with no known extenuating circumstance.
Did Charlotte say that one of her priorities, if approved as an admin, was going to be vigorous enforcement of WP:NOP? I must have missed that.
Admins are meant to uphold policies. Therefore, we shouldn't go around violating them deliberately and sneakily.
"Ignore all rules" means that you are not required to learn the rules before editing. "Ignore all rules" means that one shouldn't follow written instructions mindlessly, but rather, one should consider how the encyclopedia is improved or damaged. "Ignore all rules" means that everything is considered on a case-by-case basis. "Ignore all rules" means that guidelines derive their power to compel, not from being written down on a page labelled "guideline", but from the consensus support that they enjoy. A consensus for a general rule is assumed to apply to a specific case, until it is clear that the consensus does not apply to the specific case. Wikipedia guidelines are not suicide pacts "Ignore all rules" means that Wikilawyering doesn't work. Loopholes and technicalities do not exist on the Wiki. Wikipedia is neither moot court, nor nomic, nor Mao. The spirit of the rule trumps the letter of the rule. "Ignore all rules" means that Wikipedia's policies and guidelines tend to be descriptive as opposed to prescriptive, and that they sometimes lag behind the practices they describe. (See Wikipedia:Follow consensus, not policy)
If people want to change policy, go for it. All I'm arguing for here is honesty.
The policy itself is what is not honest, because there seems to be no intention whatsoever of enforcing it upon individuals who are not otherwise doing something wrong.