Resid,
From what I understood of jayjg's previous message, admins assumed good
faith with you for too long and Wikipedia paid the price by having to spend time dealing with your repeatedly disruptive behavior until the community's patience was COMPLETELY exhausted. In that sense his message was perfectly correct. -Scott Stevenson
On 6/4/06, Resid Gulerdem resid_gulerdem@yahoo.com wrote:
Hey Jay,
Welcome in. Do you think you got into the discussion from the correct place? I think I was trying to emphasis on the importance of discussing the proposal itself and taking it as a first step in the development of a better one. Anyways...
There are some people with lack of short memories. It is OK under standard conditions at which they only need some automated behavioral patterns. It might be hard for them, though, when they are involved in some sort of discussions. They, for example, can easily forget what they said a minute ago? Can you imagine that?
In your previous message about Salaadin, you are complaining about conspiracy theories he has in his mind about Jews. I do not mind your ethnic origin, so your concerns are understandable to me. You are on the other hand do not hesitate to construct your own conspiracy theory here: 'new kind of abusive editors trying to push their POV via the back door'. We have no chance other than showing respect to your conspiracy theory, of course, because it is yours and not against Jews. Who wants to be blamed for being an anti-semitist? Yours should be just fine...
Would I bother luxury and comfort of your mind if I ask how you think these new abusive editors will abuse something and will make their hidden agenda a policy? Or do you know how a policy becomes a proposal in Wikipedia?
I think, I could diagnose a problem in Wikipedia and could suggest a fix for it. I hope it attract some attention and works at the end. I am not able to make a suggestion for you (a good editor working for good of Wikipedia wihtout any doubt and in turn the humanity like you) other than; just follow the main policies such as 'assume good faith'.
Best,
Resid
From: jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Time to start discussing
solutions?
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 11:27:13 -0400
On 6/4/06, Resid Gulerdem resid_gulerdem@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dear Scott,
What is your panic for?
What's worse, you appear to be one of the new breed of that kind of
abusive editor, the
kind who feels that if they can't push their POV and
other policy
abuses onto Wikipedia by force, they will do it via
the back-door,
through policy change.
Jay.
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