On 04/06/06, Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au wrote:
G'day Peter A,
What if the admins all voted one way and then dismissed the result because supposedly it was non-consensus? (as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:May_Userbox_policy_poll )
Well ...
There were at least two admins who approved of the proposed policy (Grue and Fred Bauder). So "What if the admins all voted one way" is untrue.
The result wasn't dismissed by admins. The poll simply didn't say the things that certain proponents like to believe it said. Compare with the history of other policy created By Popular Demand, such as 3RR. So "then dismissed the result" is untrue.
Neither side of the poll achieved consensus. Please consult your favourite dictionary for evidence as to why "because supposedly it was non-consensus" is untrue.
In short, there is not a single thing in your email that's actually true. You will need to hold yourself to a higher standard of research in future, so that you don't look either clueless or disingenuous.
Wow, there was only one thing in my email, and its not true supposedly. You make it sound like I made more than one point. The poll itself was created by popular demand. Obviously that criterion only has meaning when it is created with popular demand of admins. The poll came very close to consensus in many views. Of course, with two admins going for it then it is a horrible generalisation, I am so sorry about that.
Userbox policies will never actually gain consensus. In the end Jimbo will actually enforce his stated view, but the example isn't as bad as you make it out to be.
Peter Ansell