Ray Saintonge wrote:
Brock Weller wrote:
Trivia sections are not encyclopedic.
Bullshit!
Aside from the fact they're not. Collections of random factoids are the very definition of "indiscriminate information".
We require non-trivial sources, and we shouldnt be one ourselves. If they dont fit elsewhere then they are rightly dropped.
The only ones who believe that are so pompous and self-absorbed that they have lost all capacity to determine what is important or interesting to readers?
Or perhaps they're right. But it's far easier to attack people and speculate on their motives than actually argue against their position. Also, there is a lot of information which is interesting and perhaps even important, and still not appropriate for Wikipedia. I find the morning traffic report important and the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven interesting, neither are appropriate material for an encyclopedia though.
As for it being harder to re add them, good. Itll keep them out longer. The harder the crap is to keep in the pedia, the better off we all are.
So what you're telling me is that YOU are singularly equipped to recognize crap. Do you have any other jokes?
I don't believe the person you're responding to is the only person who's recognized that these are crap. (In point of fact, I can confirm that he is at minimum one of two such people.)
You can thank us for the usable encyclopedia later when you figure it out.
Why should I thank anyone whose stated aim is to be destructive? Ec
Editing is not destructive. Good editors cut frequently and ruthlessly. You are not "destroying" a diamond by cutting and polishing it, you are improving it.
On 9/7/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Steve Bennett wrote:
On 9/7/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
If people/bots are doing that, they should be stopped. Last time I read the appropriate policy it said to integrate trivia into the rest of the article, not remove it.
Yeah, trivia sections are "good" in the sense that we can quickly identify material that needs a better home. Of course, sometimes the material just seems too tangential to rescue.
I'm not opposed to trivia sections, and perhaps it is that tangentiality that justifies having such material in a separate section rather than having it integrated into the body of the article where its appearance may sometimes seem strained.
Ec
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