Death Phoenix wrote:
On 7/27/06, Anthony wikilegal@inbox.org wrote:
On 7/26/06, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
I think you are all missing Antheres point. Who cares whether it's fair use or not? Do we really have to be so anal about the rules that we will infact bring this to IfD, instead of just quietly ignoring the copyright issue in this very special unique case. We are people, for christs sake, not automatons! Sometimes, process is not that important.
--Oskar
I don't see why it's such a special unique case. Wikipedia's copyright policies are flawed, and this is one example of it.
By the way, isn't there a rule that fair use only applies in articles?
Am I missing something here? The image in the fr-wikipedia is under CreativeCommons, and this was made by the owner of the copyright, Treanna himself [ http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Norbert3.jpg&diff=239605...]. Doesn't mean that the image on en-wikipedia also counts as CreativeCommons?
(that's diving right back into the process part of this whole thing, though)
--DP
It certainly is under a creative commons license, but not allowing derivative. So, we claim fair use provision, to make it possible to host it, to do "just as if we could do derivatives". Of course it is unlikely we will ever make any derivative of this image and fair use is not recognised in France (Treanna was french).
But well...
That reminds me...
A few weeks ago, I got an image listed for deletion. It was under the gfdl licence. The argument to list it for deletion was that no author was mentionned. With no author specifically mentionned, it was argued that the validity of the status of the image could be questionned and no one could be contacted for check.
The good news is that even if no author was mentionned, someone could contact me to ask me :-)
(and someone nicely run a bot on my images to add to all of them an author name).
But seriously... is there a trend toward deletion of images under gfdl when the author name is missing ?
If so, would not you consider adding "fields" of information when uploading an image, and making them mandatory. For example, author name, date and place of shot etc...
Would not that make it easier as well to identify data when preparing a DVD ?
Anthere