From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:13:08 -0800 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] The boundaries of OR (contd)
Marc Riddell wrote:
I admit I am also frustrated by the countless hours editors spend weeding out countless incidents of nonsensical, and at times malicious, vandalism. My background is sixties Berkeley - I am the antithesis of autocratic bullshit. Yet, I believe, some parameters must be set to achieve a goal. A protest without some order is merely chaos - and achieves nothing. And, ultimately, what or who you are protesting wins.
It seems like Mario Savio became discouraged and frustrated a long time ago. If a vandal's goal is to sow chaos he is accomplishing that very well.. Surely some vandals may be performing an act of protest, but I don't think that that tranche provides the really tenacious vandals who just get a thrill out of competing in a cat and mouse game.
Sticking to principles consistent with what the new left wanted in the 60s was not an easy task. Principles served on a plate of squalor can be very unappetizing. It's amazing how over the long run the establishment absorbs it all.
Ec
Mario Savio and I were close friends - and, emotionally, still are. He was frustrated every moment that I knew him - it was his fuel. But, he was never, never, discouraged.
Wikipedia, itself, is the protest.
Marc
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