On 12/10/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
A lot of the poisonous feelings on AFD seems to come from sheep voting and people voting without providing rationales. Perhaps we should improve the debate-percentage and require people to provide rationales.
One of the things that's often bothered me is people voting, not without reasons, but with illogical/irrelevant reasons and knowing that they're still being counted as a "delete" or "keep" vote (e.g. the notorious RFA vote which said, "I oppose because I don't like X who supported"). That one's more frustrating to me that anything else: the voter's immunity to reason. "My vote's just as good as yours and I refuse to change it, regardless to any decent information you may put forth."
Blackcap
On 12/10/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
A lot of the poisonous feelings on AFD seems to come from sheep voting and people voting without providing rationales. Perhaps we should improve the debate-percentage and require people to provide rationales.
I suggest a two step process:
- The first 24 or 48 hours people submit rationales for or against
deletion. 2) After that people can vote on which of these they support. Similar to a finding of the facts.
This would make it easier to discount votes based on outdated or incorrect reasons. "Article is too short" (after it was expanded), or "unreferenced" (when acutally the link was temporarily down).
It would also make it easier to see at a glance whether it was deleted for being non-notable, for missing references or for being in a irredeemable state.
Mock Up Example:
===[[FakeBand]]=== ====DELETE====
- Band yields only 12 Google hits; all on geocities, lycos and myspace
apart from official site which indicates they're not famous or having an effect on the music industry. - [[User:Example1]] **Support -- [[User:Example1]] **Support -- [[User:Example2]] **Support -- [[User:Example3]] **Support -- [[User:Example4]] **Support -- [[User:Example5]] **Support -- [[User:Example6]]
- Band has no All Music Guide entry. (WP:MUSIC) -- [[User:Example1]]
**Support -- [[User:Example1]] **Support -- [[User:Example2]] **Support -- [[User:Example3]] **Support -- [[User:Example4]]
- Band has no albums on Amazon. (WP:MUSIC) -- [[User:Example1]]
**Support -- [[User:Example1]] **Support -- [[User:Example2]] **Support -- [[User:Example3]] **Support -- [[User:Example4]] **Support -- [[User:Example5]] **Support -- [[User:Example6]]
- The listed albums are self-produced as admitted by creator. --
[[User:Example2]] **Support -- [[User:Example1]] **Support -- [[User:Example2]]
====KEEP====
- Band DOES have 3 albums. They're listed on the official site. We
just couldn't get them in the stores yet. (www.fakeband.com). -- [[User:ArticleCreator]] **Support -- [[User:ArticleCreator]] _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l