On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 09:39:27PM -0800, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Jonathan Walther wrote:
You should be clear what you warned me about. No more working behind closed doors. Tell people EXACTLY why you banned me.
For a failure to work co-operatively in editing articles.
I have been bending over backwards to work cooperatively. I have had to deal with people reverting chains of edits for no other reason than that I contributed to them. I have continuously incorporated material other people have introduced while making my edits.
Compare that to the activities of the few individuals reverting my work; they made no attempt to incorporate my edits, and put quite blatant POV in their edits. For instance, the reversions to the Judeocentrism article were phrased to cast doubt on whether such a thing even exists!
For insisting on a link to your website, rather than another site with the same source material.
Noone gave a good reason why my link should have been removed. Why put the onus on me only, and pretend the other participants smelled like roses?
For causing repeated complaints about these and related behaviors.
I'm sure they complained bitterly when Copernicus came up with his model of the solar system too... It is a mistake to equate volume of complaints with facts.
You spoke of mysterious people "complaining" to you in private, people you wouldn't reveal.
There's nothing mysterious or secret about it. Look on the pages that you edit. Look on the mailing list.
Actually, that's not true. On the telephone you specifically spoke of "private" complaints which I was not privy to. You speak of their "rising volume", at a time when I was relatively inactive and there were few complaints about me on the Wikipedia.
Jonathan