On 5/2/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Judson,
OK, that's fine. If you are getting what you need - that's what matters.
My needs are a bit different. Repeating (for the upteenth time :-)): Joe Smith died from Cancer; specifically, liver cancer. I want to be able to call up all of the persons who died from cancer, then call up all who died from liver cancer - two separate searches - two separate lists. As WP is constructed now, to do this, both the Categories "Cancer" and "Liver cancer" must be entered in Joe's Article. It's really not that complicated.
on 5/2/07 2:00 PM, cohesion at cohesion@sleepyhead.org wrote:
Sorry for my sarcasm in comparing categories to random article, I was actually agreeing with you, that categories are only useful for things like date-based work queues, which I assume was not the reason they were made.
I think for what you want they aren't that useful. And I think that MANY MORE people would use it in the way you want than in the way I'm using it. Currently they are useful for wikipedians doing specific workflows. Ideally they could be used for actually getting useful information out of wikipedia.
I will preface this all with saying I don't take much part in the on-wiki category discussions, but here's how I would fix it:
- Forget any concept of hierarchy (except when obviously useful) It's
never going to be a large scale hierarchy, so don't try. 2. Stop worrying about having too many categories on a particular article. Maybe every single person *should* be in [[Category:People]] why not?
That or use semantic mediawiki and say [[died from::cancer]] in the article, but no one likes that idea for some reason.
Judson,
No sarcasm taken :-). I welcomed your input, and thank you for this. I believe there are many more persons out there frustrated with the present Category System. I have read this on many a Talk Page. I'm just trying to persuade them to speak up in a forum where they can be heard by the most persons. My needs are very specific, and others have different ones. Many of these needs are not being met by the present system. I hope all of our needs are heard by those that have the ability to meet them.
Marc