WikiEN-l August 2009

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SmartWikiSearch, a similarity search engine for Wikipedia
by David Gerard 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

http://www.smartwikisearch.com/ http://www.smartwikisearch.com/about.html "Smart Wiki Search uses the link structure of Wikipedia to calculate which concepts each page is associated with. It is easy to see why looking at links can help group pages by concepts. For example, pages about mathematics have a lot of links to (and from) other pages about mathematics. Pages about the Apollo moon landing have a lot of links to pages about NASA and pages about the moon, etc. "More specifically, Smart Wiki Search uses the so-called eigendecomposition of the Wikipedia link transition matrix. Eigendecomposition provides of a number of special vectors, called eigenvectors, and their corresponding eigenvalues. These vectors are special because even a relatively small number of eigenvectors having the largest eigenvalues can capture all the most important properties of the link structure. "It is well-known that Google uses the eigenvector with the largest eigenvalue (the so-called primary eigenvector) to rank pages in their search results. Any other eigenvector cannot be used for ranking or scoring the pages, however they can still carry almost as much information as the primary eigenvector, and they can be very effectively used for grouping pages. Smart Wiki Search uses ~1,100 eigenvectors with the largest eigenvalues. The primary eigenvector is discarded. More information about the algorithm can be found on the Algorithm page. "The algorithm only uses the link structure and page titles to perform the search. It does not use terms or keywords that it encounters on the page. Because there is no need to determine what the meaning of the particular term or keyword is, the pages it returns generally deal with the same concept or concepts that you entered. For instance, if you enter "Flower" and "Bee", it will find pages where these two concepts overlap - those are pages about pollination. Compare these results to a typical keyword search (Google, for instance: Flower, bee, site:en.wikipedia.org), and you will see just how much less focussed on the concepts the keyword search is." - d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Motion To Disqualify a Candidate if it suppliedmisinformation...
by WJhonson＠aol.com 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

In a message dated 8/21/2009 11:45:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecaliocean(a)me.com writes: > > Why not a wedding dress?>> > ------------- You may be too young to remember that it was the "Homecoming Queen" whose "Got A Gun".... "I did it... for Johnny!" Will Johnson

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes
by WJhonson＠aol.com 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

This is how I do it. If in "Plankton" we have only one other thing named planton, then we shouldn't have a disamg page just for two items. That seems overkill. So in that case SB_Plankton makes sense. If however in "Bob Jones" we have 15 people, 3 things, and 2 places named "Bob Jones" then it makes sense to have a disamg page. I.E. there's a trade-off in having too many clicks, where it is? two items? or three? W.J In a message dated 8/19/2009 7:37:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, carcharothwp(a)googlemail.com writes: > If there really is a chance that > people will search for "plankton" in an attempt to find out about the > SB character, then the hatnote should be neutral and direct people to > a disambiguation page ("for other things named plankton, see here"). > And I don't care if that disambiguation page only has two entries. > That is an acceptable trade-off to having a spongebob squarepants > character name jarring people's reading experience by being placed at > the top of an unrelated article.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Annoying hatnotes
by WJhonson＠aol.com 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

I got what you were saying before evidently. I don't have a two item rule, and I don't think we should have a two-item rule :) In general I don't really like rule creep. I enjoy seeing people slugging it out and getting outraged, because I'm evil like that. Than I can pretend false sympathy and get one side to sell me their soul in exchange for the Clue. But back to the case. Your example has four items, so disamg it, it looks silly to have three links at the top of an article. I don't however see the whole mountainish molehill if there is only one link at the top. Will Johnson In a message dated 8/20/2009 3:12:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, carcharothwp(a)googlemail.com writes: > Do you get what I'm saying now? > > If your reply is that we should rigidly stick to the "disambiguation > pages need more than two items" rule, then could you explain why that > rule is so important?

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Motion To Disqualify a Candidate if it suppliedmisinformation...
by WJhonson＠aol.com 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

In a message dated 8/21/2009 10:40:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gwern0(a)gmail.com writes: > Only if you deny it '*with extreme predjudice*'. > > And then jump on top of the podium and begin machine-gunning down > Congressmen.>> > ----------------- While wearing a prom dress. W.J.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Motion To Disqualify a Candidate if it supplied misinformation...
by WJhonson＠aol.com 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

I hadn't notice this earlier, but I hope we don't have any candidates who are "it"s. Candidate for the board Andrew, the elections we just had. Perhaps Jay will be forthcoming in exact details. In a message dated 8/18/2009 12:06:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, andrewrturvey(a)googlemail.com writes: I feel like I've missed half the conversation here: > Motion To Disqualify a Candidate if it supplied misinformation to WP:ANI to butress an argument with a block. candidate for what? ----- "Jay Litwyn" <brewhaha(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote: > From: "Jay Litwyn" <brewhaha(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> > To: wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Sent: Monday, 17 August, 2009 02:28:45 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal > Subject: [WikiEN-l] Motion To Disqualify a Candidate if it supplied misinformation to WP:ANI to butress an argument with a block. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Knnol hooks up with PLoS for rapid science publishing
by David Gerard 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/08/plos-reinvents-publishing-and-sav… http://www.plos.org/cms/node/480 http://knol.google.com/k/plos/plos-currents-influenza/28qm4w0q65e4w/1%23# - d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Request to Wikipedians for BBC Documentary
by WJhonson＠aol.com 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

I just explained why. Some people would find three thousand articles on "Superman" is be overwhelming. It's a similar situation to having separate articles on each subway stop in New York City or each Mayor of Santa Cruz. In a message dated 8/18/2009 11:17:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com writes: Yes, that is one side of the argument. It doesn't explain why the argument exists and is so prevalent.

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Request to Wikipedians for BBC Documentary
by Cathy Edwards 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

> Dear Wikipedians, > > We're making a 4-part documentary series marking 20 years of the World > Wide Web, Digital Revolution. ). This comprises an interactive website > (http://www.bbc.co.uk/digitalrevolution/), and four documentaries for > broadcast on BBC Two at the beginning of 2010, in the UK and across > the world. > > Our first programme, provisionally titled "The Great Levelling", asks > questions about the power shifts and democratisation the Web has > brought about. A major part of this programme centres around Wikipedia > - as a community project which really brings these kinds of issues > alive. We're interviewing Jimmy Wales, as well as a couple of US > Wikipedia contributors, one of whom has written a lot of articles as a > lay expert, and another who has helped monitor dodgy edits by e.g. big > business / politicians. > > To add to and enrich the programme we'd really love to interview a UK > Wikipedian. We're looking for a passionate Deletionist - someone who > identifies with the goals of Deletionism to create a high quality > encyclopaedia, and does a lot of this kind of quality control > themselves - perhaps someone who is a member of the Association of > Deletionist Wikipedians. > > It sounds like this debate peaked a couple of years ago, but we are > taking a historical approach - have you been involved in this debate > in the past? Or, I understand a hot topic of debate at the moment is > biographies of living people. Do you have strong feelings about how > much this should be regulated - how high the threshold for inclusion > should be? > > If you can help us, and would like to be involved in the debate, it'd > be really great to hear from you. Either reply to the list, or to me > at cathy.edwards(a)bbc.co.uk, or by phone - 07800 794299. > > Best wishes, > > Cathy > > Cathy Edwards > Digital Revolution > Room MC4 C6, BBC Media Centre, 201 Wood Lane, London, W12 7TQ > M 07800 794299 > > digital revolution (working title) is an open and collaborative > documentary about how the web is changing our lives > join the conversation on the web at www.bbc.co.uk/digitalrevolution or > follow us on twitter @BBCDigRev > http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this.

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Gary North: "Wikipedia and Google Will Bring Down Establishments All Over the World"
by David Gerard 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north747.html Blog post by a Mises fan. He calls Wikipedia "wiki" all the way through and thought Wikipedia supplied Google's translation service. But it's an interesting essay suggesting that just having information available does a lot to fight evil. - d.

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