In a message dated 8/28/2009 11:20:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
bluecaliocean(a)me.com writes:
>
> When we are done, we can revert and voila! Wikipedia has food forever!>>
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Just imagine how many Terabytes of data are hiden under the iceberg tip
that is what the casual reader sees. I have yet to see any paper about say,
"The Twisty Turny Biography of Lincoln Evolves Over Six Years"....
That would probably keep someone busy for a long time. There must be
25,000 revisions to Lincoln.
Will Johnson
Here's one
http://www.travelfurther.net/dictionaries/ba-tz.htm
he doesn't have "Trolley" though, I think that's one of the funniest ones
he doesnt list
To Brits a trolley is the cart you push around a grocery store.
To Americans a trolley is a streetcar usually electric and old-fashioned
and quaint.
Advise to Brits, never say "fag" or "fag end" in the states
http://www.travelfurther.net/dictionaries/ba-df.htm
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From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: 2009/8/31
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] Wired: Wikipedia to Color
Code Untrustworthy Text
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
On 8/31/09 7:35 AM, Michael Peel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> According to Wired, WikiTrust will be enabled on Wikipedia. Does
> anyone know anything about this?
We've been planning to get a test setup together since conversations at
the Berlin developer meetup in April, but actual implementation of it is
pending coordination with Luca and his team.
My understanding is that work has proceeded pretty well on setting it up
to be able to fetch page history data more cleanly internally, which was
a prerequisite, so we're hoping to get that going this fall.
> It's also been picked up by TG Daily - http://www.tgdaily.com/content/
> view/43812/140/ - which says it's already in place.
That sounds a bit factually incorrect. :)
-- brion
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In a message dated 8/30/2009 6:22:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
carcharothwp(a)googlemail.com writes:
> We have those. I've heard Americans refer to "garage sales". We
> (Brits) have those sometimes, but more often we take stuff to a local
> charity shop, or a school's "jumble sale", or stick stuff in the boot
> (luggage compartment) of a car, drive with others to an empty field,
> and have what called a "car boot sale"! :-)
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OK, a garage sale is typically where you sell your stuff from your own
garage. People just park on the street, walk to your house and buy your stuff.
Sometimes we'll have a "neighborhood" garage sale, where several people
will sell their junk from one person's garage.
A flea market must be like your "car boot sale", but the flea market's I've
been to, aren't in empty fields, they are more organized and regular.
"Jumble sale" that's a new one, I think we'd call that a "charity flea market".
That is, you donate your stuff and some charity sells it.
I was just thinking the other day, "Is there a British-American Dictionary"
? That would be a dictionary that has all these various words and phrases
and their translations into British English. Often I'll come upon an
article obviously written by a Brit and it will say something like "At the market,
her trolley bumped into a right blinker and he copped her one..."
(I just made that up), and it makes little sense at all to an American,
unless they had watched a lot of British tele.
W.J.
>
> > Controversial articles must not be constantly backlogged because
> > reviewers are afraid of getting drawn into an edit war.
> I get the impression from this statement that traditional full dispute
> protection will still be needed. Will this still be available?
Yes, ordinary full protection is still available, as is ordinary
semi-protection.
There is also the new full-flagged-protection where instead of using
{{editprotected}} you can edit the draft and wait for an admin to flag. I
don't know if this will actually be used very often, since it doesn't really
stop edit wars.
OT: Is there any way I can make my messages thread properly without having
all messages sent to my email? I prefer to read the web archive.
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:06:45 -0500, Keegan Paul wrote:
> In my opinion, nothing. In any societal construct, 10% do the management,
> 30% does the other work, and 60% come an go as they please. In a way, it is
> for the best since you actually get care an concern rather than forced
> labor.
Do they correspond to the "lead", "follow", and "get the hell out of
the way" categories from the old expression?
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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:19:05 -0700, stevertigo wrote:
> PS: Daniel, we know you read the digests, but would you please change
> the subject header in your replies to match the actual header of the
> thread? Thanks.
Yes, I try to, as part of the extensive copy-and-pasting I need to do
when beginning a reply, in order to get a properly trimmed quote with
an accurate attribution line; but, regrettably, I sometimes forget
that last step of changing the subject line. This time, ironically,
I did it properly, but this merely resulted in replacing one digest
subject line with another!
My apologies for this netiquette failure, and I'll make my best
attempt to do better in the future. Now, if only that would also be
true of the several people on this list who invariably fullquote
beneath their replies, sometimes building up a string of half a dozen
or more untrimmed list footers that digest readers need to scroll
through to get to the next message. And then there's the weirdest
perversion of all, the properly trimmed quote interleaved with reply,
followed by an untrimmed fullquote; I call this "doublequoting", not
to be confused with the ASCII doublequote character with which I
surround the word "doublequoting" here. I have more discussion of
such quoting abberations here:
http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/top-posting.html
Is there really, as alluded to in the replies last time I brought up
the issue, a mail program or webmail interface that silently adds
such a fullquote to the bottom of a message (whether or not the main
body of the message includes interleaved quotes and replies), giving
no indication to the writer that such an attachment is being made nor
any ability to trim or remove it? Every mail interface I've ever
encountered makes the quoted material visible and editable, though
admittedly some (e.g., the iPhone) make it quite difficult to trim it
(though the addition of cut/copy/paste capability on the iPhone in
the 3.0 software upgrade a few months ago brought it from "almost
impossible" to "kind of hard but do-able").
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Just last week I was out at a local flea market (is this the same phrase in
British English?), and I asked a junk-book seller if he's ever seen the
book "Foster Family" by Buddy Foster. I explained that Buddy was Jody Foster's
older brother who had actually had a TV career several years before hers.
The lady next to me wanted to argue about whether Buddy Foster had been
Andy Griffith's son, she said it was Ronny Howard. That confused me because
Ron Howard *was* Andy Griffith's son. The part I couldn't remember at the
time was... "as WELL". Because Andy had two different shows.
See that's what I get for not yet having my brain implant.
Will Johnson
P.S. A Flea Market (at least in American English) is where people bring all
their junk they want to get rid of, and spread it out for other people to
buy it for very low prices.
Just curious, how often do the subjects of articles you work on come
up in daily life? I work on a lot of pretty obscure and random stuff,
but even still, I'm surprised how often I can claim to have written
the article about some Australian town, a state park, a ski resort...
On the downside, it's humiliating to be participating in a trivia
night, and there's a question about just such a topic, and you can't
remember the answer. I did a fair bit of copyediting on [[Hughes H-4
Hercules]], but still couldn't remember the name of the damn thing the
other night...:( (But I did know who [[Franck Sorbier]] was...)
Steve