After a good deal of discussion amongst OTRS participants and the WMFCC,
a conclusion was reached that unblock requests are an internal community
matter outside of the OTRS mission.
At present, the "contact us" page on the wiki as well as the text of the
block message encourage users to email info-en@ if they believe they
have been blocked unfairly. We would like to change this.
Previously, unblock requests were directed here, to wikien-l, which was
not a particularly effective solution because it drew people to this
list who were not necessarily positive contributors to it in all cases.
There were also some regrettable instances of blocked users being
treated in an unrespectful manner.
So now, instead, a new list has been set up specifically for unblock
requests. As it draws subscribers, the intent is to change the block
text and the "contact us" pages to direct mail there. Interested
Wikipedians may subscribe at:
Experience has shown that the vast majority of requests will fall into
(a) AOL and other proxy users who have never edited and don't understand
why they're accused of vandalism
(b) School users and proxy users from non-Western countries, who share a
proxy with a vandal and have no way to bypass it, and are asking to have
the proxy unblocked
The mailing list is open to anyone who wishes to join. Admins who are
familiar with blocking policy and concerned about giving blocked users
a fair hearing are particularly encouraged to participate.
Needless to say, it is hoped that those who participate will limit
themselves to only highly respectful replies even in those cases where
the unblock request is wholly without merit.
The Uninvited Co., Inc.
(a Delaware corporation)
On 28 Jun 2006 at 14:57, stevertigo <vertigosteve(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> What's spam got to do with it?
> What's spam but a second-hand promotion?
> What's spam got to do with it?
> Who needs an inbox when an inbox can get flooded?
My lack of mail is killing me
I must confess I still believe
When I've got no mail I lose my mind
Give me a sign,
Spam me baby one more time!
== Dan ==
Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/
Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/
Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/
> From: "Alphax (Wikipedia email)" <alphasigmax(a)gmail.com>
> Nathan wrote:
>> I remember having an imposter with a weird unicode version of the
>> "N" in my username. In fact, it's my only imposter.
>> I think such usernames should be blocked too.
>> - Nathan (nathanrdotcom)
> I think *your* username is innappropriate since you're spamming
> your URL
> in it.
Yeesh. Give him a break.
It's unobtrusive. It's a username, so it never appears in the main
namespace. It's not a link, so it won't affect his site's pagerank.
And if you look at that site, _it's just a personal website,_ no
different in kind from a Wikipedia user page.
On the spectrum from where co-opting Wikipedia for commercial gain is
a ten and obnoxious self-promotion is a one, this is a zero. It's
about as objectionable as using a username that happens to resemble
one's email address.
The Wikimania meetup from August 4-6th (http://wikimania2006.wikimedia.org)
will draw people from all of the Wikimedia projects. It's a chance to meet your
fellow contributors and discuss issues affecting the projects:
* Fair use: should we eradicate fair use, or encourage the fair use of
* Voting: impractical and harmful, or a necessity for some discussions?
* Verifiablity: requiring sources for all new information, or
supporting the contribution of first hand information?
* Dealing with trolls: do we ban pov pushers, or encourage their voices
to be heard?
* Dealing with vandals: delaying edits from suspicious users, or finally
inventing the device that allows you to poke people over the internet?
* Content: death to fancruft, or expanding the scope of Wikipedia to cover all
* Arbitration: the best thing since sliced bread, or a merely adequate online
alternative to a dunk tank?
Register today at wm06reg.wikimedia.org -- only $70 until July 9th for 3 days
of in-depth community discussion, presentations, autographs from and to Jimbo,
PS - you can start discussions or add to them on the conference wiki:
Just when you think you've seen it all...
One editor opposes adminship on the grounds that Herostratus has some
nicely executed fake "categories" on his user page:
Categories: Wikipedians who have a crowbar embedded in their skull |
Wikipedians who insist that the word "lobster" be included in every
article | Carbon-based life forms | Wikipedians who are Floyd Alvis
Cooper | Delightfully insouciant Wikipedians | Animated cartoon
Others think that his use of non-standard warnings means he doesn't
take vandalism seriously enough (does every admin have to be at the
forefront of the fight against vandalism?)
I can understand people choosing not to vote for admins they don't
admire, but opposing on these weird grounds is... well, weird.
Forwarding to this list.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>
Date: 27-Jun-2006 23:51
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Interwiki/transwiki imports mostly working now
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
I've patched up some old problems with Special:Import and Special:Export:
* Import updates categories etc
* Imports are logged and reviewable in Special:Log/import
* Imported pages also get a null edit in the history indicating the import and
* Export is fixed up to allow fetching history for shorter pages, while still
aborting to avoid bogging down the servers on longer pages (currently set to a
cutoff of 100 edits)
* Transwiki import allows selecting the import-with-history
Wikis wishing transwiki import capability should let us know which wikis they
want to be able to import directly from (for instance, from a wikipedia ->
wiktionary) and we can enable it.
Please pass this notice on to wikis where it will be of interest.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Wikitech-l mailing list
> From: Garion1000 <garion1000(a)gmail.com>
> Again, its not that important, I am just curious. Could maybe
> someone with a
> copy of the encyclopedia Britannica could look up Citizen Kane and
> see if
> it mentions Rosebud.
I don't think I can answer the question you were implicitly asking,
namely "how does the Britannica handle 'spoilers.'" Or perhaps the
answer is that the Britannica doesn't deal in plot summaries so
doesn't _need_ to handle them.
The 2006 DVD version has no article on Citizen Kane specifically. (!)
A search on exact phrase "Citizen Kane" gives these results:
“Citizen Kane” (film by Welles)
* major reference
* discussed in biography
* history of Great Depression
* innovations in directing
* production by RKO Radio Pictures, Inc.
* role of
* treatment of Hearst
The "major reference" is in a section of a long article about movies
describing the Hollywood studio system! It is mostly about
cinematographic advances in the service of Welles' vision:
Britannica says (about half snipped) "The most extraordinary film to
emerge from the studio system, however, was Orson Welles's Citizen
Kane (1941), whose controversial theme and experimental technique
combined to make it a classic. (blah blah) radically innovative use
of sound and deep-focus photography as it examined the life of
Charles Foster Kane, a character based on the press baron William
Randolph Hearst. (blah blah) complicated flashback structure (blah
blah) paradoxically revealing not greatness or might but pathetic
insecurity and emptiness. (blah blah) newly available Eastman film
stock (blah blah) plastic-coated wide-angle lenses opened to smaller
than normal apertures (blah blah) cinematographer Gregg Toland
achieved a photographic depth of field that approximated the
perceptual range of the human eye (blah blah) techniques of ambient
and directional sound that Welles had learned from radio. (blah
blah) functioning on several levels at once, the historical, the
psychological, and the mythic. Although recognized by many critics as
a work of genius, (blah blah financial failure no more Welles films).
In Welles' biography, all it says is "In 1940 Welles, on contract to
R.K.O., went to Hollywood and made the classic Citizen Kane (1941),
which portrayed the life of a newspaper magnate (suggestive of
William Randolph Hearst, who sought to ban the movie)"
Another mention, in an article about motion pictures, says "Different
scales are occasionally juxtaposed in a single shot to produce an
unmistakable dramatic or rhetorical effect. In Orson Welles's Citizen
Kane (1941) significant characters are repeatedly framed in the right
or left foreground while in the background an action takes place
which disturbs that character or which that character somehow
No plot summary. No identification of Marion Davies. No
identification of "Rosebud" with a) a sled, or b) Davies' clitoris.
(Double-take) "Wide-angle lenses opened to _smaller_ than normal
> From: Jon Awbrey <jawbrey(a)att.net>
> okay, i get it, everything is just hunky dory in wikiparadise.
> do not let the fact that wikipedia wastes expertise the way a
> bradley fighting vehicle wastes gas trouble you one teeny bit.
My own observation with regard to Wikipedia is that when I find
myself getting angry, I usually discover that I have been trying to
exert _control_ over something. When I am satisfied with exerting
_influence_, I usually am much happier.
> From: "Steve Bennett" <stevagewp(a)gmail.com>
> On 6/23/06, Warren Blanco <fireislandparadise(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lack of warning
>> A 3RR ban cannot be imposed against an editor who has not been
>> he or she is in danger of violating the 3RR. A ban can only be
>> an editor violates the 3RR after receiving a warning even if he or
>> already tecnically violated the 3RR prior to receiving a warning.
> Strongly oppose. Admins should use discretion in not blocking unwarned
> users, but they shouldn't be prevented from doing so. 3RR is already
> subject to gaming, and it only works because it's so strict. Giving
> more escape clauses is a bad idea.
I also strongly oppose. There is already protection for new users who
may be unaware of the rules; most Admins already try to avoid BITE-ing
newcomers. This would open the door to even more abuse than we have
currently; IMHO the goal is correctly to reduce edit warring, not
>[mailto:wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of maru dubshinki
>Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:19
>To: English Wikipedia
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Exit Interview -- Jon Awbrey
>> TELL ME THE TRUTH!!!!
>> (sorry I couldn't resist)
>You want the *truth*? You want the TRUTH? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
No truth handler you are! I deride you truth handling ability!