WikiEN-l September 2005

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Image copyright question: NYT images pre 1922 that are claimed to be copyrighted
by Daniel P. B. Smith 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

I frequently make use of an online database, made available to me at no cost by my local public library system, which contains not merely the full text but the actual page images of The New York Times back to 1857. Obviously there's no problem with short quotes from the text, but what about images prior to 1923? EVERY piece of material downloaded from this database, back to 1857, contains a notice like this: "Display Ad 7--No Title. New York Times (1857-Current file); Aug 30, 1888; [database name] Historical Newspapers The New York Times (1851 - 2001) pg. 8. Reproduced with permission of the copyright owner. Further reproduction prohibited without permission." I'd syllogize that a) everything published before 1923 is in the public domain, and b) everything that appears in The New York Times has been publisheded, ergo c) this is in the public domain, and that the notice is just boilerplate, presumably put on everything because it is easier and less risky to put it on everything than to attempt to determine which things are under copyright (after all, a few more Sonny Bono laws and this may BE copyrighted again), and that I can safely ignore it, that I use the image freely, and that no permission is required. Comments? -- Daniel P. B. Smith, dpbsmith(a)verizon.net "Elinor Goulding Smith's Great Big Messy Book" is now back in print! Sample chapter at http://world.std.com/~dpbsmith/messy.html Buy it at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1403314063/

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Encarta article list
by Magnus Manske 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

Based on a list collected by [[user:Bluemoose]], I have generated link-lists at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Encarta_Encyclopedia_topics There are 19 lists, with initially 2000 links each, *including existing links*. The lists will have to be manually cleaned from links to existing articles (due to naming problems, I would not recommend a bot). I have already done two of these lists (one and a half, to be honest, as #19 was only half full), but now it becomes a PITA ;-) So please, assist in the effort. Each of the remaining 17 pages has 40 sections to ease editing. If just a few of you do some sections, the lists will be usable pretty soon. Thanks, Magnus

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Re: Wikien-l Mailing List
by Ray Saintonge 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

I've received the following spam, masking as though it's from the mailing list. Directly replying would be to the roomity address, and not to this mailing list. Ec Joni Ellsworth wrote: > Ray, > > I was reading your posts on the Wikien-l mailing group yesterday, and > think our site may be of interest to you. It will put all the posts > from the group on one page, and keep your inbox cleaner. > > There is nothing to buy, and there is a video demo, if you like. If > you do get a chance to check it out, let me know what you think of it > - I would love to hear your thoughts. > > The site addy is http://www.roomity.com. > > Thanks! > > Joni Ellsworth > Community Operator > EMail: coasteraddict(a)roomity.com > URL: http://www.roomity.com > Office: 214-827-3319 > > To opt out of this email, please contact coasteraddict(a)roomity.com

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A plug and a query
by Worldtraveller 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

They do book publishing, see here: http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/books.aspx Only black and white, which is a bit of a shame, but colour covers at least. WT > On 9/11/05, Worldtraveller <wikipedia at world-traveller.org> wrote: > > > The query is, who runs the Wikipedia Cafepress shop? It would be quite > > nice to offer WikiReaders for sale there once a few have been created. > > Daniel Mayer (mav) recently took over running the shop, but as far as > I know, you can only sell CafePress products there, not WikiReaders. > > Angela.

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A plug and a query
by Worldtraveller 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

First the plug: I have made a WikiReader. I decided to do it because there seem to be a load of them in the pipeline and none finished, so I thought I would see if I could put together a simple one on a fairly narrow topic and put a PDF up for downloading. Info and the PDF are at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Worldtraveller/Decade_Volcanoes_WikiReader and I'd really appreciate any comments on what could be improved, whether you like the style and layout etc. The query is, who runs the Wikipedia Cafepress shop? It would be quite nice to offer WikiReaders for sale there once a few have been created. Cheers, WT

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Re: [WikiEN-l] RickK deleted his talk page
by Arno M 11 Sep '05

11 Sep '05

Just out of curiosity, I may be missing something here, but what is the big problem with a guy deleting or erasing his own talk page? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Maxwell" <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] RickK deleted his talk page Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:08:58 -0400 > > On 6/21/05, JAY JG <jayjg(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > I think de-sysopping would be like kicking him when he's down. Most people > > who leave when upset return anyway. > > Agreed here, we should just restore the page and only consider > desysoping if shows malicious intent by continuing to redelete the > page. > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- _______________________________________________ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.as…

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Fwd: RE: request for permission to use a screen shot from a digital map to illustrate an article on wikipedia
by steve whittet 10 Sep '05

10 Sep '05

>X-VirusChecked: Checked >X-Env-Sender: P.Milne(a)nls.uk >X-Msg-Ref: server-2.tower-57.messagelabs.com!1125069113!83730371!9 >X-StarScan-Version: 5.4.15; banners=nls.uk,-,- >X-Originating-IP: [193.130.15.156] >Subject: RE: request for permission to use a screen shot from a digital >map to illustrate an article on wikipedia >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:00:57 +0100 >X-MS-Has-Attach: >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >Thread-Topic: request for permission to use a screen shot from a digital >map to illustrate an article on wikipedia >Thread-Index: AcWpC3qH23KB4//jTtaSU30zuqHjUgBQhyQg >From: "Milne, Peter" <P.Milne(a)nls.uk> >To: "steve whittet" <whittet(a)adelphia.net> > >Peter Milne >Map Library Services Manager >National Library of Scotland >33 Salisbury Place >Edinburgh >EH9 1SL >tel 0131 623 3970 >fax 0131 623 3971 >e p.milne(a)nls.uk > >Dear Mr Whittet > >There will be no problem in granting permission to use this image for a >contribution to such an admirable venture as Wikipedia (my opinion). It >fulfils all the criteria to be classed as non-profit and educational. Can >you give me the title or subject of the article and I will send a formal >letter giving permission as a Word attachment. > >I look forward to hearing from you. > >Yours sincerely > >Pete Milne > >-----Original Message----- >From: steve whittet [mailto:whittet@adelphia.net] >Sent: 25 August 2005 01:21 >To: Map Library >Subject: request for permission to use a screen shot from a digital map >to illustrate an article on wikipedia > >Hi, >I would like to use a screen shot of the scale on a map >entitled Milaria Scotia Regum - 1595 which you have >on your website for a wikipedia article >http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/scotland.cfm?id=130# >your copyright for this page says > > >Copyright >Screen prints may be made of these maps for non-commercial >educational and private purposes. Written permission must be obtained in >advance to reproduce any digital material from the Library's collections, >whether in hard copy or electronic forms. ><http://www.nls.uk/collections/maps/services/reprographics/permission.html> > >I'm unclear as to whether a screen capture for wikipedia meets >your definition of non-commercial - educational and is permitted >without filling out the form or whether you require the form >because you would consider putting it on a page online >a digital reproduction? > >regards, > >steve > > >******************************************************************* >Visit the National Library of Scotland online at www.nls.uk >******************************************************************* >This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you >are not the intended recipient, please notify the ICT Helpdesk on >+44 131 623 3789 or ict(a)nls.uk and delete this e-mail. The >statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the >author and do not necessarily reflect those of the National Library of >Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 >and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 and has been >scanned by MessageLabs. >*******************************************************************

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Re: legal paranoia (was Re: [WikiEN-l] Encarta article list)
by DF 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

Many of the lists were merged: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_art… -DF --- Daniel Mayer <maveric149(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > --- Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia.com> wrote: > > > Daniel Mayer wrote: > > > Bullocks. This is legal paranoia. > > > > I'm sorry, but acting carefully on advice from actual lawyers is not > > legal paranoia. > > A legal team who was split on the issue. I > suggested a very simple way to avoid much of the > potential issues; combine the lists. Thus > my bullocks statement in regards to deletion > instead of merger. Deletion followed by nothing > (what was done) is legal paranoia, while merger is > a prudent compromise. > > > Beyond that, of course I agree with the current concept of creating a > > generally researched list from many sources of topics which we don't > > have but should. > > My point all along (IIRC, the first comment on the > Encarta list talk page was from me raising the > merger issue). > > -- mav

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Re: A Request
by David Gerard 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

Alphax wrote: >Phil Boswell wrote: > > I would strongly suggest that you select someone you think appropriately > > trustworthy---Jimbo or Angela spring to mind, or possibly David Gerard as > > the current custodian of the IP check thingamabob---and supply that person > > with your correct identity, with proof, so that further spoofing of your > > identity can be detected. > Tim Starling also comes to mind. Tim's been handing an increasing number of requests to me, so he can get on with useful things like writing the software and running the servers ... Summary: Cranston Snord = Enviroknot = ElKabong = KaintheScion = Anon Y. Mouse = annoying idiot on IRC who comes in only from a remarkably Enviroknot-like IP or through a Tor server = annoying idiot under any number of names on [[WP:ANI]] who comes in through UofH, an Enviroknot-like IP or an open proxy. I've kicked Enviroknot off this list *again*. Please stop feeding the troll. - d.

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One to watch
by charles matthews 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

I'd be grateful if a few people could add to their watchlist [[Anthony Ludovici]], of interest to the far right. Charles

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