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Hi all,
I didn't realise that MediaWiki 1.5 was so close to being introduced,
otherwise I wouldn't have come up with my previous proposal, mentoring
for admins, quite so quickly as I did!
As unfortunately my proposal is not too popular, I have come up with a
new one titled "Requests for rollback", taking advantage of the
"privilege separation" available in MediaWiki 1.5.
In a few words, it's a system like RfA but just granting rollback rather
than all admin powers
This proposal is described as how I imagine it would be implemented at:
--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Talrias/Requests_for_rollback
My reasoning behind creating this proposal is principally due to the
following:
* Useful for those who do not wish to be nominated on WP:RFA, either
because they do not desire admin powers or because they would not be
confident with them.
* More people being able to quickly deal with vandalism is by no
means a bad thing.
* It devolves power to the community.
I accept that some might say that is an unnecessary addition to
Wikipedia, duplicating requests for adminship, but I believe that people
who want to contribute to Wikipedia but do not wish to become
full-fledged admins will benefit from the times when rollback can be used.
I'd be interested in hearing other people's thoughts on this.
Chris
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Chris Jenkinson
chris(a)starglade.org
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Dear Mailing list,
I am searching for permission to use a frame enlargement from FULL METAL JACKET. Any ideas as to who I would contact about this? It's for a book on film art.
Cheers,
Marty Fairbairn, PhD
Trustee, Upper Grand District School Board
Member, Guelph Police Services Board
53 Ptarmigan Drive
Guelph, ON
N1C 1B4
Tel: (519) 824-1703
FAX: (519) 824-5421
Email: mfairbc045(a)rogers.com
I have posted about this before, namely the unkind reception often given to
User:Wladk, usually posting as an IP number 200.46.++. He has identified
himself as Wellington Perez Ishikawajima, Peruvian of Japanese extraction.
He has now initiated 100 pages or so; these exhibit almost all possible
problems, beginning with poor English. Only User:Wikibofh seems to have
recognised, as I do, that this prolific contributor is posting material that
includes real gems, and is expanding the East Asia coverage in a way for
which Wiki-en should be grateful. Plenty of really quite nasty comments
have been seen at VfD.
To give an example of the value: a recent high profile biography of Mao
Zedong argues that the Chinese Communists only came to power after they were
handed factories in ex-Manchukuo (which Japan overran in 1931), by the
Soviets who invaded right at the end of WWII. Reading that, I realised that
I knew chapter and verse about that, from the WP articles I had been
cleaning up about Japanese heavy industry there.
So - please can I have some help in my campaign to have these articles
cleaned up first, before rushing them to VfD? I think some Wikipedians'
comments (such as 'contribute to the WP in your native language') are
completely out of order. I see no reason to believe that the wiki process
does not work, with these articles as for all else. There is a listing I
maintain at
[[User:Charles Matthews/Imperial Japan]].
I should be grateful to be notified of more such - I found around ten major
ones this morning alone, while the database was locked.
Charles
It appears that my e-mails to this list are being dropped by the
moderator, just so people know why I haven't been able to respond. In
case this one isn't dropped too, you should know that David Gerard,
one of the arbs on my RfA is the one who is censoring me.
How can arbitrators not claim bias when they're engaging in active
censorship? I can't respond on Wikipedia now and now not even on this
list.
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Nathan J. Yoder
http://www.gummibears.nu/http://www.gummibears.nu/files/njyoder_pgp.key
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I can't seem to edit while I am logged in. Every time
I hit 'save changes' it acts as if I hit 'show
preview'. For some reason the sandbox works for me,
but not my userpage or any articles. I can delete and
move pages, but not rollback. I can edit while logged
out.
Gamaliel
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> No matter how many people you can convince that listing Article X under
> [[Category:Pseudoscience]] does /not/ mean that Wikipedia takes the
> stance that Topic X is a pseudoscience, the vast majority will assume
> that it does.
>
> And that is why people are complaining about those categorisations.
>
> [snip]
>
> Maybe the only way out of this is to call the categories something
> unwieldy-but-NPOV like [[Category:Theories or beliefs widely considered
> pseudoscience]]...
Once again. Do you object to [[Holocaust denial]]
being in the [[Pseudohistory]] category? Would you
prefer to have something "NPOV" like [[Category:Theories
or beliefs widely considered pseudohistory]]?
Such over-qualifications with the good intention
of being as NPOV as possible is something which
Wikipedia has too much of already.
My favorite example is this sentence which I found
on the [[Britney Spears]] article about two months
ago:
"Britney Spears is often regarded by many as
a controversial sexual figure"
In my opinion the following sentences are fine:
1. Britney Spears is a controversial sexual figure.
2. Holocaust denial is pseudohistory.
3. Creationism is pseudoscience.
And if someone uses Wikipedia in 50 years to demonstrate
to her friend that Creationism is pseudo-science that's
fine too. Because it is.
Regards,
Haukur
I just had a flakey login where it looked like it succeeded, but my watchlist was unavailable, but I was able to look at my user contributions. But any further viewing of pages, look like I am NOT logged in. I edited and saved on Talk:Fox news. The change showed up on the page, but the change did not show up on the history of the page. I am the last contributer in the history, but that version is not the version that shows when viewed.
This is either another bug, or the system has gotten itself into an unstable flakey state.
--Silverback
I suggest creating a new project, called WikiGames. Let wiki addicts
have an entirely separate server.
Erik created WikiNews, as an offshoot of en.wikipedia Current events.
Why not create one more wiki?
I really believe in giving free rein to hackers (er, enthusiastic
programmers who seek to extend the capabilities of computer systems).
But once they've discovered something useful, it should be packaged in a
way that the rest of us (mere mortals) can also enjoy and access. And
they should also clean up their mess and move on.
How hard is it to set up a new wiki? Takes 30 minutes, right?
Or they can just go to http://games.wikicities.com/ as Erik suggested.
Ed Poor
Technical Consultant
Unification Encyclopedia Project
P.S. I'm still a wiki admin and mailing list admin at wikien!
Nathan, somebody showed me the message where you comment on my post
on your talk page. Thank you for quoting me so people can see for
themselves what I said. *Your* take on it is: "Also, it appears
bishonen, out of her personal vendetta, has renewed my block", with
many another choice accusation. I apologize for offering to shorten
your block, I take it back. Oh, btw, I also see your next post to the
mailing list, where you have "figured out why it's doing it". Is that
your idea of an apology?
Bishonen