> I take that very seriously. It's an extremely
> damaging accusation, and if
> Kevin has evidence to support it he should make it
> public. If he doesn't
> well we'll know he's just hand-waving, indulging in
> attempt to denigrate
> those who have uploaded images involving nudity.
And by implication, those of us who oppose turning
Wikipedia into a Kiddiwiki.
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--- Kevin Rector <krector(a)Compco.com> wrote:
> > Maybe you'd be more comfortable at something like
> > yahooligans.
>
> Ah Rick, that was such a clever and subtle insult.
> If I called you out
> for being a jerk you'll say something like, "well
> you don't want to see
> boobs and they don't have any at Yahooligans". So
> you can hint that
> perhaps I'm just being childish without actually
> saying it. That was
> very clever indeed.
>
> -Kevin
Well, gee, Kevin, when you try to equate everybody who
disagrees with you on this subject with pornographers,
how else am I supposed to interpret your age level and
the age level of your interests? Showing one breast
is pornography? Not a very mature outlook on the
world at large, on art, or on the history of
illustration, is it?
RickK
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Recently I have had a deluge of junkmail, and I have a pretty good idea
who it is. One of emails (below), from LeadFactory.com, included the IP
address of the person who subscribed me.
I had a hunch, considering, one, a lot of it is right-wing U.S. and
Israeli email (of which related articles I've been editing lately) and,
two, it's the first junkmail I've ever received at this address. So I
plugged the address into Wikipedia and whatta ya know, a probable sock
puppet who has been especially abusive to me recently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:
Contributions&target=155.84.57.253
You might also like to check out some of the sock puppet's responses to
requests to stop vandalism and 3RR:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:155.84.57.253
I also did a geographic trace on the IP and they're from Houston Texas.
Can this IP address be permanently banned or something? Is there anyone
who can check the address against other usernames?
Christiaan
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--- David 'DJ' Hedley <spyders(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Believe it or not, we have good reasons to look
> things up while at work,
> > including articles about people. If any
> biographical article can have
> > a nude of that person, however, we won't be using
> Wikipedia to do so.
>
> The above alone, I think, is good enough reason to
> ban nude pictures when
> sufficient non-nude imagery is present.
What a frightening prospect. And what gives you the
idea that the photo is of a nude anything?
RickK
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Hi,
one of my edits was blocked for being "spam" because it contained a URL
that was in the spam list. However,
* I didn't add that URL (it was already in the article under "External
Links")
* The URL was legitimate and relevant to the article
Please can someone remove that domain from the spamlist? The domain in
question is http://www.niimm.spb.su/ and I had to remove it to have my
edit go through:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grigori_Perelman&diff=0&oldid=122…
Thanks,
Timwi
There is now an open competition for the standardisation of talk page
templates. See [[Wikipedia:Template standardisation]] for details.
Submit your entries before voting commences at the end of 24 April 2005.
~~~~ Violet/Riga
Not with a name like MacGyverMagic. With a name like that you should be
able to take some table salt, a shoe, a Swiss Army knife, and some duct
tape and make a microphone and recording software. :)
-Kevin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikien-l-bounces(a)Wikipedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-
> bounces(a)Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of MacGyverMagic/Mgm
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:23 PM
> To: English Wikipedia
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia
>
> Is being broke enough of an excuse?
>
> On 4/13/05, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote:
> > MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
> > > Too bad my system is ancient and hasn't got the capabilities to
record
> > > anything due to missing software and microphones. I do encourage
the
> > > project, though.
> >
> > Headsets with microphones are available for a child's pocket money.
> > Recording software is available for free (for Windows, for example,
> > Audacity). You have no excuse! ;-)
> >
> > Timwi
> >
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There is currently a vote underway on an article that was relisted for VfD seventeen hours after the previous VfD was closed. I originally voted to delete based on content (IMO, non-notable autobiography), but now I am voting to keep based on principle. It just survived VfD. Community consensus means nothing if we only abide by it when things go our way.
This article was returned to VfD less than a day after the previous VfD was closed. IMO, that showed a disregard for process, for community consensus, for the opinions of those who had voted, and for the spirit (if not the letter) of Wikipedia policy.
By relisting the article almost immediately, the lister unilaterally forced an extension of the VfD debate, without regard to anyone else's wishes and without regard to standard practice (no consensus to delete means keep). If someone thinks an article should be deleted, they should not simply keep relisting it until it eventually gets deleted. I had originally voted to delete, but I draw the line at this.
Obviously, by drawing attention to this, I'm hoping that enough people get involved and vote to keep on principle. How long do we respect a VfD result? Until the next time we log in?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Grant_Neufeld
Thank you,
Stephen W. Adair
(User:SWAdair)
> I hope this is not so. I don't tend to be vocal in these debates, but
I
> will feel a strong regret if the encyclopedia becomes the bulletin
board
> for such a community.
>
> I would like to suggest from my own experience a possible factor that
> tends to consistently skew debates on these subjects. Some of you may
> be surprised, but most of you will sympathize with the idea that I
find
> the mere subject line of the current thread to be embarrassing and
> discouraging to my participation. I am very hesitant to visit, even
for
> the noblest reasons, some of the arenas where these debates have run
> (autofel..., clit...). I am a father, a brother, a husband, a church
> elder, an engineer, and many other roles in which I am loathe to be
> associated with the subjects of these debates. I suggest that many,
> many others like me who have opinions that there is something wrong
with
> including images like this also have various reasons to be discouraged
> from participating in debates about the same images. I am very sorry
> that we are absent from such debates, but it just happens that they
are
> framed in ways and carried on in places that discourage our active
> participation.
>
> Tom Haws
Well said, I sorry for having not taking that into consideration for the
subject line when starting the thread.
-Kevin
> The community HAS resolved this non-problem. It has
> decided, by consensus, that there is nothing wrong
> with having images like this. Just because it hasn't
> acceded your point of view on a topic which many think
> is much ado about nothing, doesn't mean that the
> community is dysfunctional.
No Rick, the community spends considerable (mind blowing amounts really)
of energy bickering, arguing, and fighting instead of doing constructive
work. That's dysfunction.
>
> Maybe you'd be more comfortable at something like
> yahooligans.
Ah Rick, that was such a clever and subtle insult. If I called you out
for being a jerk you'll say something like, "well you don't want to see
boobs and they don't have any at Yahooligans". So you can hint that
perhaps I'm just being childish without actually saying it. That was
very clever indeed.
-Kevin