WikiEN-l December 2005

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Possible uses for Wikimedia UK (was Libel law)
by David Gerard 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

>To be locally based lackeys for WMF. We don't give them money, we give >them useful assistance of a form yet to be specifically determined. >Also, the chapter will have headed paper and a familiar name, which >has the potential for interesting applications in the door-opening >line. I was speaking to a politician a few days ago about what I do with myself. Let me say that one startlingly important thing we can do is to double-check and make sure *every* politician above the dog-catcher level in the UK has a decent-quality article. (This one does.) [cc to wikimediauk-l] - d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Anons banned from creating articles
by David Gerard 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

Jimmy Wales wrote: >New users 3241 6370 (!) >The increase in number of users seems out of proportion; he theorizes >that this has more to do with our massive press coverage than anything >else. "They can say what they like, just spell my URL right." How many hits does wikipedia.com (not .org) get as a percentage, btw? - d.

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Deletion debate on the Icelandic & English Wikipedia
by Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

There's a deletion debate on the Icelandic & English Wikipedia that I'd like to bring your attention to, it concerns an article on an Icelandic individual which has been getting front page coverage in Icelandic newspapers recently and is for those reasons as well as others, in my opinion, clearly notable enough to have an encyclopedia article about. The articles in question are http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stef%C3%A1n_H._%C3%93feigsson and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stef%C3%A1n_H._%C3%93feigsson and the deltion listing (both by the same user) are at http://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spjall:Stef%C3%A1n_H._%C3%93feigsson#Atkv.C3.A… and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Stef%C3%A1n_H.…

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RE: [WikiEN-l] NPOV trainwreck
by Chip Berlet 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

Hi, If Sam Spade needs time to take his finals, I have no problem suspending the arbitration process for a week in order to give him time to gather any more evidence he thinks would be pursuasive. I am currently taking a break from editing pending the arbitration outcome, but I suspect Wiki will not collapse without my input. I can also take a break from discussion pages and replying to the arbitration pages. I have recently been converted to the eventualist camp. My keyboard thanks you. :-) Chip "incompetent abrasive commie stooge" Berlet > -----Original Message----- > From: wikien-l-bounces(a)Wikipedia.org > [mailto:wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of Sam Spade > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:50 PM > To: English Wikipedia > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] NPOV trainwreck > > > I "threw" evidence regarding Cberlet, what did that result in? > > Sam Spade > > On 12/7/05, David Gerard <fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au> wrote: > > Sam Spade wrote: > > > > > Please, don't bother w the false indignation. You have > given me no > > > reason to believe you would be swayed by any evidence, no > matter how > > > clear. I had begun to waste my time looking into the long > history of > > > conflict between Jayjg and I. > > > > > > Rather than, say, presenting no evidence because you have > no evidence > > that wouldn't be laughed out of the room? So far you've > thrown mud and > > presented nothing to back it up. > > > > > > - d. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WikiEN-l mailing list > > WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >

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Re: [WikiEN-l] NPOV trainwreck
by David Gerard 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

Sam Spade wrote: >Thank you for clarifying my thesis: >That those who describe others as "troublemakers" (esp. persons such >as myself without any serious charges against them, past or present) >are incapable of judging them neutrally. You have already made up your >mind, evidence be damned. You solidify the bigotry by comparing me to >those you have censured before. This Ivory Tower injustice cannot long >last. Your prejudices and flippant generalisations underscore your >inability to fairly judge better than any argument I could make. Your post is long on ranting and notably short on evidence. Please provide diffs illustrating your claim of conflict of interest. - d.

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Semi-protection policy
by Jossi Fresco 07 Dec '05

07 Dec '05

I have been fighting vandalism extensively for the last few months. The proposed policy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Wikipedia:Semi-protection_policy will substantially improve things in RC patrol and enable editors and admin doing this thankless job, easier and more successful. Please take a look and help make this a policy. --Jossi

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Jimbo/Seigenthaler CNN interview transcript
by Zzyzx11 at Wikipedia 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

I just noticed that WikiFanatic posted a transcript on the Jimbo v. Seigenthaler debate on CNN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WikiFanatic/Wales_interview_transcript Although I was fascinated about it, I feel like that page is a copyvio because I know that all CNN broadcasts and video are copyrighted material... Zzyzx11 at en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzyzx11 zzyzx11(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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Re: Experiment on new pages
by Fl Celloguy 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Does anyone have any idea how long this experiment will last? Just curious. Also, would there be a way to estimate how effective this experiment is? I.e. comparison of number of deleted new pages, etc. There should be a way to measure the effectiveness of this experiment. Thanks! Flcelloguy >From Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Jimbo/Seigenthaler CNN interview transcript
by David Gerard 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

FF wrote: >Sure, we use "fair use text" but that means "quotations" and not >wholesale copying. We're allowed to write an article about the >interview, describing and even quoting from it when relevant but we're >not allowed to just copy and re-print the entire interview. *Probably* not. Fair use can include and has included up to the entire work in question. - d.

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[[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]] for anonymous creation of articles
by M. Creidieki Crouch 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Since anonymous users have been experimentally prevented from adding new articles, I have created [[Wikipedia:Articles for creation]]. This allows users to request that a page be created, and list initial content. I hope that this will dampen the effect of this policy change on the creation of legitimate articles. I hope that others will consider adding this to their watchlist and helping out with this task; any registered user can fulfill these requests, or state why they think a request should not be fulfilled (article already exists under different name, etc.). -- Creidieki

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