WikiEN-l October 2005

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I demand a daily spot for great writing
by Tony Sidaway 29 Oct '05

29 Oct '05

If editors are supposed to take great writing seriously, we must give it the highest possible award. Jimmy Wales, here's something you could make happen. I *demand* that we have a guaranteed daily place on the main page, to be reserved solely for articles chosen for their great writing. Anything less is a display of lack of commitment in our goal--to be as good as, or better than, any other encyclopaedia, free or otherwise, with digraphs or without.

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Case sensitivity
by dpbsmith＠verizon.net 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

From: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> [[Formosa's Law]]. Could all lucid persons connected to reality please leave this thread alone. Thanks. Did you mean to cite Formosa's Law, or Formosa's law? We have articles on both.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] User Ghirlandajo messed up the WP Admin noticeboad
by David Gerard 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

AndriyK wrote: >User Ghirlandajo violated WP rules several times. >Yesterday, I described it on Wikipedia:Administrators' >noticeboard: >http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… >then he messed up the page by removing the title of >the section >== [[User:Ghirlandajo]] == >and by moving my text into another part of the page so >that it became unclear who exactly has violated the >policies. It made it clearer to me, not less so, as did your contribution list. - d.

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Blocking policy violeted
by Andriy K 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

Dear Colleagues, My username is AndriyK. IP address is 141.2.247.88 I was blocked by David Gerard at 13:13, 28 October 2005. The reason was formulated as "The reason given for AndriyK's block is: "massive disruption (read the MoS, talk before creating huge amounts of work for others)" In my opinion, the blocking policy was violated. According to the official Wikipedia blocking policy blocking is used to deal with vandalism, bots, personal attacks, and inappropriate usernames. Nothing of this is unapplicable in my case. I did not violate 3RR. I indeed have done a lot of changes, but I did not vandalize the articles. I corrected the names of Ukrainian city according to their proper English spelling (e.g. those used by Encyclopaedia Britannica, see, for instance, http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9023842?query=Chernihiv&ct=) What I did completely conforms the Wikipedia policy concerning using of modern English in the articles. Doing these changes I corrected several subtles mistakes (because of wrong spelling, some lings were wrong and led to articles that actually were not ment in the text). David Gerard was likely misinformed by a one group of users. These users try to force wikipedia community to use a sort of "Russian English", i.e. transliteration from Russian prononciation of the names of Ukrainian cities instead of the spellings used by modern creadible English sources (like Encyclopedia Britannika and many others). I tried to explain my edits on the talk pages, but this group of users do not accept any reasons. They push their POV so to say "by force". The same group makes also often propaganda insertions to the article, which is also an obvious abuse of Wikipedia. Thank you in advance for solving the issue. Best regards, AndriyK ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de

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AndriyK block (was Blocking policy violeted)
by David Gerard 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

AndriyK wrote: >My username is AndriyK. >IP address is 141.2.247.88 >I was blocked by David Gerard at 13:13, 28 October >2005. >The reason was formulated as >"The reason given for AndriyK's block is: "massive >disruption (read the MoS, talk before creating huge >amounts of work for others)" Admins wishing to check up on this should check [[WP:ANI]], AndriyK's contributions and his interactions with others. Anyone feeling the above is unfair, feel free to unblock, but do please put a note on WP:ANI. - d.

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User Ghirlandajo messed up the WP Admin noticeboad
by Andriy K 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

User Ghirlandajo violated WP rules several times. Yesterday, I described it on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… then he messed up the page by removing the title of the section == [[User:Ghirlandajo]] == and by moving my text into another part of the page so that it became unclear who exactly has violated the policies. Today user Ghirlandajo violated WP rules again. I repoted this on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… and tried to put my yesterda's text to the proper place. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… and to add the title http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… User Ghirlandajo removed everything http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… pretending that he moves this onto the page Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents In fact, he did not move it to Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. (In fact, he moved another text that blames and slander myself) When I inserted my text to Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… He removed the title ==[[User:Ghirlandajo]]== so that it became unclear who exactly violated the policies: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_not… in the same time he was slanderring that me - not he vandalize the page. I tried to revert his changes at 11:36 but he reverted back at 11:39. Please look at the history. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_notic… User Ghirlandajo also slandered me and misinformed David Gerard. Now I am blocked. User Ghirlandajo also uses extremely dirty language in his comments. Please have a look at his contributions at 11:47, 11:46, and 11:45 on 27 October 2005. Thank you in advance for your just resolving the issue. Best regards, AndriyK ___________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Infinite BlockbyLovelyAdmin/Generosity/Helpfulness/Appropriate use ofWikipediaUse Emails
by David Gerard 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

Alphax wrote: >"Hey Calvin, what are the rules again?" [[Formosa's Law]]. Could all lucid persons connected to reality please leave this thread alone. Thanks. - d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Infinite BlockbyAbusiveAdmin/Extortion/Harassment/Fraudulent use
by MAURICE FRANK 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

>Wikipedia is NOT a "public forum". It is a website run >by a private >organisation. You agreed that you would abide by certain >terms and >conditions; if you have broken those terms and >conditions, you have no >legal comeback. > >- -- >Alphax Aha! Yes he does have his comeback, if Wiki itself has broken either its own self-described terms or another law, towards him. Good luck to him: you've been asking for it with your gloating claims to be above every law in the world. ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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Infinite BlockbyLovelyAdmin/Generosity/Helpfulness/Appropriate use ofWikipediaUse Emails
by David Gerard 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

Mr Merkey's future contributions will be screened for unduly uncivil subject lines as well as uncivil contents. He can of course continue to contribute as relevant. Fred's right, though - legal matters go straight to the Foundation; wikien-L is just a bunch of users. - d.

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Infinite BlockbyAbusiveAdmin/Extortion/Harassment/Fraudulent use ofWikipediaAbuse Emails
by Jeff V. Merkey 28 Oct '05

28 Oct '05

Fred, Here's the settlement. Roll the page back to the agreed content and lock it and unblock my accounts so I can edit in the cultural areas. Leaving me blocked is grounds for action. Why should I be blocked when it was your admins who violated the laws? Blocking me to avoid claims when you allow others to edit is unlawful. Was I blocked due to my race? Or perhaps due to my religious or culturual beliefs. See where this could go? From my perspective, I was a victim of stalking on this site, and I was blocked for political reasons, not because I did anything wrong. Making claims you can block people for legal threats in the case of this person may become a self fulfilling prophecy. There's right and wrong, and you are an attorney. You cannot block a public forum for any reason or no reason. It violates the CDA and anti-trust legislation. Think about it. Jeff

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