WikiEN-l July 2004

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Boston meeting???? making it later
by daniwo59＠aol.com 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

I would like to suggest that we try to make it a little later, especially for those of us who are coming in from New York and other places. In a message dated 7/28/2004 9:04:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales" <jwales(a)wikia.com> writes: > >Er, I said 3:30, but I defer to the wiki page if it says 1pm. > >But still, I'd like to see this promoted a bit more heavily, because >it seems like sort of a small crowd so far. > >moink wrote: > >> > What Boston meeting this Saturday? >> >> This Saturday, 1pm (proposed, looks like it'll be kept) , at the S & S >> Restaurant in Cambridge. See [[User:Jimbo Wales/Boston]] >> >> moink >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org >> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> >_______________________________________________ >WikiEN-l mailing list >WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >

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Re: Boston meeting????
by Daniel P.B.Smith 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

> I'm still going to the Boston meeting this Saturday, of course. :-) What Boston meeting this Saturday? -- Daniel P. B. Smith, dpbsmith(a)verizon.net alternate: dpbsmith(a)alum.mit.edu "Elinor Goulding Smith's Great Big Messy Book" is now back in print! Sample chapter at http://world.std.com/~dpbsmith/messy.html Buy it at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1403314063/

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Scarcity of Uncle Ed
by Poor, Edmund W 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

I have been asked to avoid further personal use of the Internet at work, and I don't have a high-speed line at home. So, you won't be seeing much of Uncle Ed at the Wikipedia website for the indefinite future. I will continue to administer the English Wikipedia mailing list. And post my usual trenchant commentary... I'll pop in from time to time at the website, but it will be irregular and sporadic. I'm still going to the Boston meeting this Saturday, of course. :-) Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed

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Arbitration Committee election schedule
by Michael Snow 28 Jul '04

28 Jul '04

For anyone who hasn't heard yet, we are having a special election to fill two vacancies on the Arbitration Committee through the end of the year. Some of the discussion leading up to this was on wikipedia-l, but as we were reminded there, wikien-l is the correct place to post about issues specific to the English Wikipedia. We have set the timeline so that candidates must present themselves by the end of Monday, August 2. The election itself will start on Wednesday, August 4 and continue for 10 days through Friday, August 13. All users who have been registered for 3 months may vote. See the election page for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_July… --Michael Snow

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WikiEN-l administrator replacement
by Poor, Edmund W 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

Oops! I guess I misunderstood. I thought the recent posts about a new WikiEN-l administrator referred to the International list, rather than the English list. You know, the "l" looks like an "I"... I just tried to log in as administrator but found the old password didn't work. So I guess that means I've been replaced. (A private e-mail to me, informing me of this, would have been nice.) Ed Poor

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Re: Current Events July 23rd 2004. Zero0000 abusing admin privs
by zero 0000 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

To S. Vertigo : I didn't block him because of this, I blocked him because he does this sort of thing day in and day out without end and my time is more valuable than that. I'm sick and tired of cleaning up after him. Moderate his behavior? Impossible! People have been saying that to him for months and months. You can read several earlier episodes in this mailing list and the records of the wiki contain countless. The facts about the two versions of the story have been on Talk:Current Events from the beginning. Haaretz wrote explicitly that the earlier version was wrong. I can't show it to you because they reuse the same URL for later editions of the same article and that part of it vanished during the day. Look, this is about the difference between an anti-tank bomb and a Qassam rocket. Why should I be spending all my time looking for proof it was one rather than the other when I already read Israel's newspaper of record say it was a bomb and they got it wrong before? What difference does it make anyway? "Harry" should have accepted it and moved on but now he has all of us wasting our time on this trivia. Zero. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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Re: Current Events July 23rd 2004. Zero0000 abusing admin privs
by zero 0000 27 Jul '04

27 Jul '04

"Harry Smith" is a far-right-wing fanatic who has been a menace for quite a while under various guises (earlier "OneVoice" and for the past few months anon IPs). I think there is something wrong with him as his behavior is very bizarre and obsessive. Viajero listed him at Requests for Arbitration not long ago. In recent times, protecting Wikipedia from him has become quite a chore and I don't know why my little available time has to be so occupied when I would much prefer to be writing articles. So I started to block him and wrote this information on the RfA page so that the arbitrators have a chance to look at what I'm doing and tell me to stop if they wish. I think he should be banned permanently. In case anyone is actually interested in the Current Events issue he raised, there was an initial report widely taken up by many media outlets then a couple of days later there was a corrected version that was less widely reported. "Harry" thinks that by finding more copies of the first report than of the second report he can prove the first report is true! And this is a *good* example of his logical skills. (Everyone knows that when a newspaper admits they are wrong then they probably were.) In any case, the event is nowhere near significant enough for Current Events, but is just one example of the crud "Harry" has been filling up Current Events with. People have started complaining on the Talk page and rightly so. Zero. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Re: WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 12, Issue 54
by Dan Miller 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

I'll join. As WP grows, we need to get on this type of thing--almost all large organizations do it, and it's important to manage perceptions. I'll start setting up a draft page in my userspace, and get up a letter to the Register as well. Meelar > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:28:48 -0700 > From: "Poor, Edmund W" <Edmund.W.Poor(a)abc.com> > Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] "The Register" is making fun > of us > To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> > Message-ID: > > <E506B3FF6BC1254C9AC1B948C380BC2801FBB6E4(a)sm-nyny-xm05.nena.wdpr.disney.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > "Don't bite the hand that feeds you." > > It would have been better to reply with mild > explanations of how our > Buckminster Fuller article wasn't really a "plug" > for Drexler than to > issue a shrill denunciation or (shudder) to loft an > f-word at them. If > those were the only two who wrote, than I suggest in > the future we get > together and coordinate our strategy for responding. > > Anyone care to form or join a Public Relations > committee? First order of > business would be to send an apology to The Register > and assure them > that the "wankers" who flamed them were not speaking > officially for our > project. We might also ask for suggestions on > improving our article > about their newspaper... > > Ed Poor > Fiddler and Bureaucrat >\ ===== In one of a series of interviews since teaming up on Tuesday, Kerry and Edwards predicted they would win the political fight over which party best exemplifies the values and ethics of most Americans, but Kerry said they would wage that battle on their terms and not what he called the Republican Party's "little political, hot-button, cultural, wedge-driven, poll-driven values." --Washington Post, July 11, 2004 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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"The Register" is making fun of us
by Mark Pellegrini 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

"Yes, please. Coordinating responses to press about us is an excellent idea. I shuddered a bit myself when I saw those responses, and when I saw someone on IRC (Raul?) write that they had sent a followup to the second Register piece." I confess, I did send a reply to the second one. Nothing shrill or angry (not my style), I just simply pointed out three places where their second story was factually inaccurate. I made sure not to draw any conclusions either - nothing that would give them fodder for a third story. I did link to [[m:Category:humor]], so unless they want to run a story about the seemy IRC underside of Wikipedia (based on the raunchy quotes on the quotes list), I don't anticipate a problem. --Mark

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RE: [WikiEN-l] "The Register" is making fun of us
by Poor, Edmund W 26 Jul '04

26 Jul '04

"Don't bite the hand that feeds you." It would have been better to reply with mild explanations of how our Buckminster Fuller article wasn't really a "plug" for Drexler than to issue a shrill denunciation or (shudder) to loft an f-word at them. If those were the only two who wrote, than I suggest in the future we get together and coordinate our strategy for responding. Anyone care to form or join a Public Relations committee? First order of business would be to send an apology to The Register and assure them that the "wankers" who flamed them were not speaking officially for our project. We might also ask for suggestions on improving our article about their newspaper... Ed Poor Fiddler and Bureaucrat -----Original Message----- From: Rick [mailto:giantsrick13@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 3:12 PM To: Wikipedia English Subject: [WikiEN-l] "The Register" is making fun of us http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/23/wiki_fiddlers_big_book/ RickK _____ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! <http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/>

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