I would like to suggest that we try to make it a little later, especially for those of us who are coming in from New York and other places.
In a message dated 7/28/2004 9:04:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales" <jwales(a)wikia.com> writes:
>
>Er, I said 3:30, but I defer to the wiki page if it says 1pm.
>
>But still, I'd like to see this promoted a bit more heavily, because
>it seems like sort of a small crowd so far.
>
>moink wrote:
>
>> > What Boston meeting this Saturday?
>>
>> This Saturday, 1pm (proposed, looks like it'll be kept) , at the S & S
>> Restaurant in Cambridge. See [[User:Jimbo Wales/Boston]]
>>
>> moink
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> I'm still going to the Boston meeting this Saturday, of course. :-)
What Boston meeting this Saturday?
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Oops! I guess I misunderstood. I thought the recent posts about a new
WikiEN-l administrator referred to the International list, rather than
the English list. You know, the "l" looks like an "I"...
I just tried to log in as administrator but found the old password
didn't work. So I guess that means I've been replaced.
(A private e-mail to me, informing me of this, would have been nice.)
Ed Poor
To S. Vertigo : I didn't block him because of this, I blocked him
because he does
this sort of thing day in and day out without end and my time is more
valuable
than that. I'm sick and tired of cleaning up after him.
Moderate his behavior? Impossible! People have been saying that to
him for
months and months. You can read several earlier episodes in this
mailing list
and the records of the wiki contain countless.
The facts about the two versions of the story have been on Talk:Current
Events
from the beginning. Haaretz wrote explicitly that the earlier version
was wrong.
I can't show it to you because they reuse the same URL for later
editions of the
same article and that part of it vanished during the day.
Look, this is about the difference between an anti-tank bomb and a
Qassam
rocket. Why should I be spending all my time looking for proof it was
one
rather than the other when I already read Israel's newspaper of record
say it was
a bomb and they got it wrong before? What difference does it make
anyway?
"Harry" should have accepted it and moved on but now he has all of us
wasting our time on this trivia.
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"Harry Smith" is a far-right-wing fanatic who has been a menace
for quite a while under various guises (earlier "OneVoice" and
for the past few months anon IPs). I think there is something
wrong with him as his behavior is very bizarre and obsessive.
Viajero listed him at Requests for Arbitration not long ago.
In recent times, protecting Wikipedia from him has become quite
a chore and I don't know why my little available time has to be
so occupied when I would much prefer to be writing articles.
So I started to block him and wrote this information on the
RfA page so that the arbitrators have a chance to look at what
I'm doing and tell me to stop if they wish. I think he should
be banned permanently.
In case anyone is actually interested in the Current Events issue
he raised, there was an initial report widely taken up by many
media outlets then a couple of days later there was a corrected
version that was less widely reported. "Harry" thinks that by
finding more copies of the first report than of the second report
he can prove the first report is true! And this is a *good*
example of his logical skills. (Everyone knows that when a
newspaper admits they are wrong then they probably were.) In any
case, the event is nowhere near significant enough for Current
Events, but is just one example of the crud "Harry" has been
filling up Current Events with. People have started complaining
on the Talk page and rightly so.
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I'll join. As WP grows, we need to get on this type of
thing--almost all large organizations do it, and it's
important to manage perceptions. I'll start setting up
a draft page in my userspace, and get up a letter to
the Register as well.
Meelar
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 06:28:48 -0700
> From: "Poor, Edmund W" <Edmund.W.Poor(a)abc.com>
> Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] "The Register" is making fun
> of us
> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
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> "Don't bite the hand that feeds you."
>
> It would have been better to reply with mild
> explanations of how our
> Buckminster Fuller article wasn't really a "plug"
> for Drexler than to
> issue a shrill denunciation or (shudder) to loft an
> f-word at them. If
> those were the only two who wrote, than I suggest in
> the future we get
> together and coordinate our strategy for responding.
>
> Anyone care to form or join a Public Relations
> committee? First order of
> business would be to send an apology to The Register
> and assure them
> that the "wankers" who flamed them were not speaking
> officially for our
> project. We might also ask for suggestions on
> improving our article
> about their newspaper...
>
> Ed Poor
> Fiddler and Bureaucrat
>\
=====
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"Yes, please. Coordinating responses to press about us is an excellent
idea. I
shuddered a bit myself when I saw those responses, and when I saw someone on
IRC (Raul?) write that they had sent a followup to the second Register
piece."
I confess, I did send a reply to the second one. Nothing shrill or angry
(not my style),
I just simply pointed out three places where their second story was
factually inaccurate.
I made sure not to draw any conclusions either - nothing that would give
them fodder
for a third story. I did link to [[m:Category:humor]], so unless they want
to run a story
about the seemy IRC underside of Wikipedia (based on the raunchy quotes on
the
quotes list), I don't anticipate a problem.
--Mark
"Don't bite the hand that feeds you."
It would have been better to reply with mild explanations of how our
Buckminster Fuller article wasn't really a "plug" for Drexler than to
issue a shrill denunciation or (shudder) to loft an f-word at them. If
those were the only two who wrote, than I suggest in the future we get
together and coordinate our strategy for responding.
Anyone care to form or join a Public Relations committee? First order of
business would be to send an apology to The Register and assure them
that the "wankers" who flamed them were not speaking officially for our
project. We might also ask for suggestions on improving our article
about their newspaper...
Ed Poor
Fiddler and Bureaucrat
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From: Rick [mailto:giantsrick13@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 3:12 PM
To: Wikipedia English
Subject: [WikiEN-l] "The Register" is making fun of us
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/23/wiki_fiddlers_big_book/
RickK
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