WikiEN-l March 2004

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RE: [WikiEN-l] Columbia Encyclopedia titles
by Bryan Derksen 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

At 07:40 AM 3/2/2004 -0800, Poor, Edmund W wrote: >Magnus, > >Please re-post your list, divided up into smaller pages, like: If you do, however, please exclude any links to already-existing articles. The previous time the list was on Wikipedia I went through it and removed such links, and found about a thousand orphans had been "hidden" by their one link from that page.

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RE: [WikiEN-l] Columbia Encyclopedia titles
by Poor, Edmund W 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

Magnus, Please re-post your list, divided up into smaller pages, like: A B C ... M to Mc Mc to Mz ... XYZ Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed

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Re: Good news
by Dan Miller 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

Caroline Ford wrote: >Fabulous! >But licensing them to us, is not the same as >licensing under the >GFDL... >Caroline I know. That's why I'm trying to get a good template for a letter or email, explaining the GFDL and assorted legal info. Is such a thing available somewhere, or should I just steer them to [[Wikipedia:Copyrights]]? Meelar __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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RE: [WikiEN-l] Re: Columbia and Copyright
by Poor, Edmund W 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

Why not write to Columbia and ask them if they'd like to do their own "article diff" and then give us a list with their blessings? Meanwhile, there's nothing to stop individual Wikipedians from looking up topics one at a time in Columbia Concise and then searching Wikipedia for a corresponding topic. We're not competing with paid professionals. They have one thing we don't: the backing of an authoritative body. We have one thing they don't: complete openness to input from anyone in the world. Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed

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ello! =))
by jwrosenzweig＠yahoo.com 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

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Hi! :-)
by redgum46＠lycos.com 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

Argh, i don't like the plaintext :) ..btw, "22061" is a password for archive

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wikipedia access denied
by John Knouse 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

Well. I was right in the middle of a lengthy edit, and tried to save it, and got a message access denied. I've tried multiple means of access. Wikipedia seems to be somehow completely screwed up right now. Fortunately, I had the (for me) atypical good sense to save the whole edit on my local computer before I lost it all. -- John Knouse jaknouse(a)frognet.net

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Possible Alliance/Partnership Between Sensasian and en.wikipedia.org
by Tracy 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

Dear Webmaster, We would like to explore a possible alliance/partnership with en.wikipedia.org. www.sensasian.com is an online store focused on Asian entertainment products, namely music and movies - with a strong focus on Cantopop, Mandopop, J-pop, K-pop and Cantonese, Mandarin, Japanese and Korean movies, animation and TV series. At this stage we have in excess of 10,000 products in our store which we constantly update. In addition we furnish viewers with value-added services such as providing critical reviews, real audio samples (both audio and video (ie movie trailers) ) and delayed web casting of artists' interviews / press conferences. We also constantly run contests where registrants and purchasers have the opportunity of winning products and posters which are autographed by celebrities. We believe that this will be of additional interest to your viewership. As our focus is on fans of popular Asian culture, of which vintage HK pop music is a large part of, we strongly believe that there exists a mutual benefit for us to work together. One way we could approach this cooperation is via co-branding on a sell through basis. Our site has an affiliate programme which tracks the sales which are generated by referrals from you and this may be monitored by you anytime from a remote location. The details can be worked out so that we may both experience a win win situation. Our current partners include SCMP.com, Stareastnet.com and dianying.com among others. Kindly let us have your views on this. Sincerely JY Tan (Tracy) sensasian.com E-mail : tracy(a)sensasian.com Tel: +(603)2070-5557 Fax:+(603)2072-1919. URL: http://www.sensasian.com - the store that offers Pure Asian Entertainment.

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Concise Print Wikipedia is a Fork
by Daniel Mayer 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

>One example of the difference is in internal references >(or q.v. entries). Even if the 'news style' first section >approach is used, the first section of the full Wikipedia >article would contain links to articles that don't exist in >the concise version. Oh come on. That is easy to fix - don't mark what would be dead links in a concise version as anything special. This could be done automatically. >Another difference was raised by Mav himself, when he >asked that 'we have no forks and no freezing of Wikipedia >articles.' I give firm support to the idea that we should >never freeze a Wikipedia article in the process of creating >the Concise Print version. But the urgency of creating the >print ready version imposes two areas of discipline. The first >is (IMHO) that we will need to freeze an article as ready. Sifter software has already been written that exports the current article version of selected articles to another site. It is therefore a fallacy to think that freezing the article is the only option. Just edit the Wikipedia article into news style and then select the resulting version as ready for print. Let a script take care of the rest (removing everything but the lead section, converting links to something that would work in print, removing what would be empty links, etc.). >The second was raised by Ray Saintonge (Ec), and that >is that the project will probably need to restrict editing >rights, something that we'd never want in Wikipedia. Only give selected people the ability to use the sifter software. Fixed without the need for a fork or freezing Wikipedia content. >When I wrote the first note about using the 'Language Wiki' >method of creating a fork, I just assumed that the fork was >going to happen. So long as I'm still breathing I will strenuously fight against any Wikimedia-sponsored fork. -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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Eclecticology for admin
by Poor, Edmund W 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

User:172 nominated Ec for admin, but the proposal attracted instant opposition. I'm perplexed: I never even noticed he /wasn't/ an admin, and I don't know what all the fuss is about. Something to do with "deletionism" vs. "inclusionism" I guess.... Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed

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