WikiEN-l February 2004

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The devil's advocate does not make deals with the devil.
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

I think I've demonstrated quite clearly to all that I wish to continue and am capable of and more than willing to engage in improving wikipedia for the betterment of us all. Yes, we are all volunteers, and what we are volunteering is our effort to make this a great project for one man who is now paying us for that work by allowing us to stay here. Codie Vickers

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Sincere thanks.
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

Look at all the busy little beavers watching this "case", who are now merrily improving wikipedia by expanding and glorifying my contributions. I want to thank all concerned for showing such faith in my tedious contributions that you wish to add to them and make them even better. It speaks volumes of the confidence in me which you display so openly. Codie Vickers

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Is this due process or proof ot troll mafia hypothesis? Time will tell.
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

Troll mafia is the idea that trolls may evolve a system of cooperation for more effective trolling. Through division of labor, these metatrolls are able to efficiently engage in harassment of other users while giving the appearance of due process. Troll mafia are thought to exploit the [[delphi technique of consenus building]], whereby they begin with a foregone conclusion, then politely ridicule any other suggestions until somebody proposes the solution they desire. By the way, there is also no entry for delphi technique of consenus building entry in wikipedia. No delphi technique and no open source journalism. hmm Why is that? Codie Vickers

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Open source journalism was not in wikipedia before Plautus satire put it there? Is this a conspiracy theory or what?
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

These entries were also initiated by Plautus satire, and remain largely unmolested by troubled people such as Curps. Open source journalism Phytochemicals What's this? An entry for open source journalism did not exist before Plautus satire entered it? Why has it remained? Plautus satire cites Slashdot and an obscure periodical only, yet this entry remains unchallenged. Who will be the first to step up and call open source journalism one of Plautus satire's "conspiracy theories"? Codie Vickers

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terrible formatting
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

I apologize for the terrible formatting of my last post, but as you can see I posted the entirety of my changes, anyone can view them and judge for themselves who is being fair and who is being unfair. I tried to add summaries that would give relevant context to the changes I made in every case. And I took a lot of abuse during this process. Codie Vickers

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relevant passages in tornado
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

The following is a partial, selective audit trail of a recent conflict that was thrust on me by other users. I post links only to my own changes. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2461869&oldid=24617… (added association of tornadoes with plasma glow discharge in atmosphere)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2463705&… (inserted accompanying electromagnetic phenemona associated with tornadoes)http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2520718&o… inserted observed radio emissions from tornadoes and associated (implied) electrical discharges) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2520792&oldid=25207… ((until a better explanation than "no." arises) reinserted observed radio emissions and implied plasma discharges (tornado lightning) and cited) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2520888&oldid=25208… (added similarity of tornado lightning to fluorescent bulbs, cited reference for tornado lighting (also other plasma effects of tornadoes not inserted into entry; point discharge, plasmoids, etcetera)) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2521031&oldid=25209… added plasmoids and point discharges to known phenomena associated with tornadoes) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2521131&oldid=25210… (rewording of second paragraph, addition of various observed plasma and electromagnetic phenomena associated with tornadoes) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2521624&oldid=25211… (reworded opening of second paragraph, citation supporting observed plasma and electromagnetic phenomena associated with tornadoes) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2525630&oldid=25217… (additional citation, reference to other well-known plasma effects observed in association with tornadoes) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2525911&oldid=25257… (added nocturnal tornadoes and citation) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2526048&oldid=25260… (added reference to rRetired U.S. Army captain Roy S. Hall's family encounter with interior of tornado, cited) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2526240&oldid=25260… (reworded passage about multiple funnels) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2526256&oldid=25262… (addition of fowl killed and plucked by tornadoes) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2526302&oldid=25262… (clarification of wind plucking falsification) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2526596&oldid=25265… (addition of observed cellular structure inside tornadoes) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2527043&oldid=25265… (-have) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Tornado&diff=2539152&oldid=25388… (reinsertion of electromagnetic phenomena as a result of the plasma arcing going on inside tornado, despite Curps insistence that tornadoes are not ass. with these) I now cite below the first change I made (that started this "war) before I was banned for continuing to advocate on the talk pages for my last edition. ***BEGIN QUOTE*** A '''tornado''' is a violent [[windstorm]] characterized by a twisting, funnel-shaped cloud. The word "tornado" comes from the [[Spanish language|Spanish]] verb "tornar", meaning "to turn." Tornadoes accompany (and obscure) plasma glow discharges in the atmosphere similar to the discharge in a fluorescent light bulb. Nocturnal tornadoes offer opportunity to observe this glow discharge[http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf105/sf105p11.htm]. It is spawned by a [[supercell]] [[thunderstorm]] (or sometimes as a result of a [[hurricane]]) and produced when cool air overrides a layer of warm air, forcing the warm air to rise rapidly. ***END QUOTE*** Now I cite the extant entry. ***BEGIN QUOTE*** A '''tornado''' is a violent [[windstorm]] characterized by a twisting, funnel-shaped cloud. The word "tornado" comes from the [[Spanish language|Spanish]] verb ''tornar'', meaning "to turn." It is spawned by a [[supercell]] [[thunderstorm]] (or sometimes as a result of a [[hurricane]]) and produced when cool air overrides a layer of warm air, forcing the warm air to rise rapidly. Tornados are sometimes associated with [[lightning]]. Many tornadoes are the tail end of a [[mesocyclone]] and they have a characteristic "hook echo" signature on a radar screen. ***END QUOTE*** Note that this current entry says that tornadoes are spawned by thunder (lightning) storms, and also says they are only "sometimes" "associated with" lightning. Is this accurate? I think everyone can judge which of these entries is more factual and complete. Codie Vickers

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Copy of email reply to RickK
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

You accuse me of spamming the email list? You posted to the list and left 43 lines of footer and 119 other lines of extraneous quoted text therein. Look at the mote in thine own eye.

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My case against Curps? Curps admitted harassing me, stated it boldly on the requests for mediation page.
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

delirium at rufus.d2g.com posted the following to this list: ***BEGIN QUOTE*** Rick wrote: > So where is the Wikipedia jail? Right now, the accuseds are allowed > to continue what they were doing, willy-nilly. To summarize the matters currently under consideration: * Plautus Satire is currently temp-banned for a week pending a decision in his case, as Jimbo did so, and there was significant consensus that this should be done. ***END QUOTE*** My case? The only case I'm involved in that has reached mediation is my case against Curps. Curps has been harassing me and I have largely been trying to work around it, but it became to cumbersome so I sought assistance. Curps is the defendant, I am the claimant. Why is the process being ignored here? Nobody has contacted me regarding anyone else's requests for mediation. Why is the process being ignored here? Curps announced his intention in the request I initiated involving his abuse. The first version was titled "3 Curps v. Plautus satire" The text follows: ***BEGIN QUOTE*** Curps v. Plautus satire I would like to request some outside intervention for a situation that has arisen. The user Curps seems intent on reversioning every edit I make, without explanation in the summaries or on talk pages. I've made several changes to entries recently, and all of them seem to have been reverted by Curps, so either he is watching the same pages I am, or watching my contributions, and reversioning them without explanation. I would like for somebody to epxlain to Curps that he needs to discuss reversions, especially if he is going around unmaking everything one user (me) does. - Plautus satire 01:32, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC) Curps reversions of Plautus satire as shown by page histories:[2][3][4][5] [6][7] ***END QUOTE*** I am reluctant to disclose the details of my attempts to get mediation with respect to Curps' abuse, because the other participants have demanded they remain secret. Codie Vickers

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All sensible people v. Plautus satire: Exhibit 4 (extant contributions - plus link to original request for mediation re: Crups' admitted abuse)
by Plautus Satire 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

The following entries in wikipedia are there because I put them there, and they remain largely intact. The talk page histories of many of these pages show my collaborative efforts in bringing them up to snuff from my original small entries. Aquaponics Dark compact Garden cress Laser broom Laser star hypothesis Watercress This list may not be comprehensive. Codie Vickers (P.S.: In case I forgot to post the link to the page history for my original request for mediation in the matter of Curps' admitted abuse, here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation… )

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Plautus
by Martin Harper 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

Arno M wrote: > When will something be done? Brian Corr wrote: > Could someone give an update on a timeline for action? Something will be done about Plautus when you do something about Plautus. The timeline for action on Plautus is roughly: 1) You decide to act. 2) You act. Perhaps you meant to ask a different question? -Martin

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