WikiEN-l March 2003

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RE: date on front page
by Daniel Mayer 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

Daniel Ehrenberg wrote: >Maybe on the front page (or the side bar) we should >have a link for the date (ie today in history). For example, >today would be [[23 March]] [[2003]]. >Or it could be a Special page updated automatically >(Special:History, Special:Today?) It is already on the Main Page. Click on "Historical anniversaries" in the Selected Articels box. >It would look like this: > >{23 March text} > >---- > >{2003 text} Actually this is the syntax: [[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}]] Which for today would give [[March 23]] This is what the wiki code looks like for the current link: '''[[{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}|Historical anniversaries]]''': -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav) WikiKarma: http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Rutherfordium&diff=768918&oldid…

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Search feature
by Daniel Ehrenberg 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

Maybe the article didn't exist. Try typing in Red_Harvest after wikipedia.org/wiki/. That's what I aways do. The page doesn't exist. We need more people to write book articles. I write one after every book I read for school. If everyone collectively tries to avoid using the search engine, the server will be much faster. >One way the search engine could be improved on is if >by default it does a logical "and" search, rather than >the logical "or" search it appears to do now. To provide >an example of what I'm talking about, the other night I needed >to know who wrote the novel "Red Harvest," so I did a >search on Wikipedia using those two words. What the >search engine did was return all of the articles with >the words "red" or "harvest" in either the title or the >body of the article. > >After glancing through the first hundred hits, I gave up on >Wikipedia, & used Amazon's search engine. The book was the >first or second on the list. > >Although I'm not a database programmer (although I've taken >a couple of classes on Oracle & SQL in the past), I'd guess >that it's not that much of a performance hit to have the >search query first treat the input as an "and" statement, >then if nothing is returned, say in the subject head, then >offer to rerun the query as an "or" statement. > >Just my two cents. > >Geoff _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Search feature
by Daniel Ehrenberg 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

I hate to say this, but the seach engine in Wikipedia is once again slowing down the server. i don't think the new server can keep up with the high demand for seaches. Maybe we should postpone using it until it works completely. Or maybe we should make some restrictive measure for searching, like only signed in users can seach. We really need another server. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Re: Sysop request: Tim Starling
by Daniel Mayer 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

On Sunday 23 March 2003 04:00 am Tim Starling wrote: > I'd like to request sysop status. I've been around since last October, and > I hardly ever get into POV disputes or edit wars of any kind. Being a sysop > would be nice since I'll finally be able to revert annoying page-creation > vandalism, and to delete pages to make way for moving. > > -- Tim Starling I thought you already were! Of course you should be an Admin silly. :-) --mav

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Search feature
by Daniel Ehrenberg 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

Maybe we should recreate the category system like there are in so many other languages. Then you can search within a category, which would have less items then the whole wikipedia? There could be a drop-down box with all of the main categories next to the search box, and you would have to choose a category. Or (seperate situation) you could search the category name. This would search all of the sub category names too. Would this work? -LittleDan >Fine, but now, if I want to access someone talk page >for example, I do a first search in all articles, then >I get the more precise search box, then I give more >precision saying I want to look in user page, then I >do a second search, and I finally get the result. Same >for any help page. > >How bright is that ? Looking in the whole database >first to have then the possibility to give more >precision to my search. That's inefficient. Is there >anything to do there ? At least an access to advanced >search ? Or does that exist and I did not realise ? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Sysop request: Tim Starling
by Tim Starling 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

I'd like to request sysop status. I've been around since last October, and I hardly ever get into POV disputes or edit wars of any kind. Being a sysop would be nice since I'll finally be able to revert annoying page-creation vandalism, and to delete pages to make way for moving. -- Tim Starling _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and other similar entries
by Daniel Ehrenberg 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

Sounds good, but only a sysop could change that status of the page. Or maybe there could be a cookie identifier on each person's computer so we could track them? The cookie would be blockable. >I see the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and related entries are >taking a POV hammering again. TUF-KAT, Zoe, and I have had to do >reverts to it to restore balance in the past, and now Cferrero is doing >revert duty tonight. A big problem with this stuff is that many of us >(I am certainly one) sometimes lack the detailed knowledge to be 100% >confident we are reverting POV ranting and not removing real >information. (This particular entry has not been too bad so far, no >massive edit wars and just one IP ban, but there is a whole class of >broadly similar stuff, and this one will serve as an example of the >general class as well as any.) > >Maybe it is worth considering having a special class of Wikipedia >article that is not a completely protected page, but can only be edited >by logged-in contributors. I'm not sure if this would work or not, or >if it would be practical to implement. I'm just thinking aloud. Any >bright ideas out there? Comments? > > >Tony Wilson >(Tannin) >list(a)redhill.net.au > > >_______________________________________________ >WikiEN-l mailing list >WikiEN-l(a)wikipedia.org >http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Re: [WikiEN-l] PHP-mySQL sandbox
by Daniel Ehrenberg 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

>I'm having trouble configuring them on my computer to test out programs, >and I've already asked around for help. I've figured it out. You can disregard my last email if you want to, but it would still be a good idea. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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PHP-mySQL sandbox
by Daniel Ehrenberg 23 Mar '03

23 Mar '03

I'm trying to learn PHP and mySQL so I can become a developer of Wikipedia. I'm having trouble configuring them on my computer to test out programs, and I've already asked around for help. If it's not to much trouble, could someone make some sort of sandbox for PHP and mySQL? The database would have to be seperate to prevent hacking to the Wikipedia server. It could be a good resource to the net, as it is very inconvienent to set up your computer as a server. The PHP part wouldn't be that hard, just make it so anyone could edit the text of some sandbox.php (including the HTML) and have it update to the server. -LittleDan _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Wikipedia metup
by Daniel Ehrenberg 22 Mar '03

22 Mar '03

Are there any definitive dates for the wikipedia metup? _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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