Hello everyone
Samuel and I have been contacted by the AffCom for feedback on a proposed new user group, which might overlap with Offline.
On the african mailing lists, the members presented the goals of that new usergroup, which are to
*introduce Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects in rural and remote areas using offline projects.*
Source : https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/african-wikimedians@lists.wikime...
If you have any feedback regarding this UG to provide to AffCom, please speak up now ;) Otherwise, just consider it information/
Thanks
Florence
-------- Message transféré -------- Sujet : Overlapping affiliate notification-Wikimedians of Nomads User Group Date : Tue, 29 Nov 2022 22:40:36 +0530 De : Manavpreet Kaur mkaur-ctr@wikimedia.org Pour : Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org
Dear Affiliate Representatives,
I'm writing on behalf of the Affiliations Committee to request your feedback on a proposed new user group.
As you probably know, Wikimedia user groups are intended to be simple and flexible affiliates that offer initial recognition for qualifying groups to be able to operate with a brand name and logo used for local projects and events.[1] User groups may come and go or stay to thrive and grow as user groups, or sometimes develop into chapters or thematic organizations.
User groups do not have "ownership" or "exclusivity" of any territory, and we encourage many user groups to coexist within the same region. We aim to ensure peaceful coexistence by working with all new and existing groups to identify their planned activities and goals, connect on shared movement goals, and balance any potential overlaps with agreements for operating in shared spaces.
At this time, we are reaching out to let you know that there is a new group, Wikimedians of Nomads User Group[2], which has submitted an application for recognition as a Wikimedia User Group. We are requesting your feedback because these groups seem to be working in the same language and may have some of the same community or thematic spaces as you are. We want to hear any observations, concerns, or other thoughts *within 15 days* that you might be able to offer regarding the groups and their work so that the committee can consider them as it reviews their application.
Links:
[1]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates
[2]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Nomads_User_Group https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/1000_Women_in_Religion_Wikimedia_User_Group
Would it be helpful to start a conversation with them and see if the overlap would rather be resolved by them joining this UG?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 10:20 AM Florence Devouard fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everyone
Samuel and I have been contacted by the AffCom for feedback on a proposed new user group, which might overlap with Offline.
On the african mailing lists, the members presented the goals of that new usergroup, which are to
*introduce Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects in rural and remote areas using offline projects.* Source : https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/african-wikimedians@lists.wikime...
If you have any feedback regarding this UG to provide to AffCom, please speak up now ;) Otherwise, just consider it information/
Thanks
Florence
-------- Message transféré -------- Sujet : Overlapping affiliate notification-Wikimedians of Nomads User Group Date : Tue, 29 Nov 2022 22:40:36 +0530 De : Manavpreet Kaur mkaur-ctr@wikimedia.org mkaur-ctr@wikimedia.org Pour : Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com meta.sj@gmail.com, Florence Devouard anthere@anthere.org anthere@anthere.org
Dear Affiliate Representatives,
I'm writing on behalf of the Affiliations Committee to request your feedback on a proposed new user group.
As you probably know, Wikimedia user groups are intended to be simple and flexible affiliates that offer initial recognition for qualifying groups to be able to operate with a brand name and logo used for local projects and events.[1] User groups may come and go or stay to thrive and grow as user groups, or sometimes develop into chapters or thematic organizations.
User groups do not have "ownership" or "exclusivity" of any territory, and we encourage many user groups to coexist within the same region. We aim to ensure peaceful coexistence by working with all new and existing groups to identify their planned activities and goals, connect on shared movement goals, and balance any potential overlaps with agreements for operating in shared spaces.
At this time, we are reaching out to let you know that there is a new group, Wikimedians of Nomads User Group [2], which has submitted an application for recognition as a Wikimedia User Group. We are requesting your feedback because these groups seem to be working in the same language and may have some of the same community or thematic spaces as you are. We want to hear any observations, concerns, or other thoughts *within 15 days* that you might be able to offer regarding the groups and their work so that the committee can consider them as it reviews their application.
Links:
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedians_of_Nomads_User_Group https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/1000_Women_in_Religion_Wikimedia_User_Group
--
*Manavpreet Kaur*
Affiliations Committee Support Associate
Wikimedia Foundation https://wikimediafoundation.org/
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On 01.12.22 04:09, Jorge Vargas wrote:
Would it be helpful to start a conversation with them and see if the overlap would rather be resolved by them joining this UG?
I think it would. IMO, we still lack a quality conversation between tech providers, integrators and end-users. Might be an opportunity here to help to fill the gap.
Kelson
Well.... yes...
When they sent the announcement on the African Mailing List, several people answered the message as you may see here : https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/african-wikimedians@lists.wikime...
But the original poster himself did not comment any further and did not enter into contact with us (either by email, or on this list, or on the wiki).
Would anyone volunteer posting a little something on their UG talk page to introduce us ? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedians_of_Nomads_User_Group
Thanks
Florence
Le 01/12/2022 à 08:59, Emmanuel Engelhart a écrit :
On 01.12.22 04:09, Jorge Vargas wrote:
Would it be helpful to start a conversation with them and see if the overlap would rather be resolved by them joining this UG?
I think it would. IMO, we still lack a quality conversation between tech providers, integrators and end-users. Might be an opportunity here to help to fill the gap.
Kelson
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On 01.12.22 16:15, Florence Devouard wrote:
Well.... yes...
When they sent the announcement on the African Mailing List, several people answered the message as you may see here : https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/african-wikimedians@lists.wikime...
But the original poster himself did not comment any further and did not enter into contact with us (either by email, or on this list, or on the wiki).
Would anyone volunteer posting a little something on their UG talk page to introduce us ? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedians_of_Nomads_User_Group
Looking at this wiki page, the purpose of UG seems slightly different. The word "offline" is not even used there. Maybe a sign that the project might not be really mature?
Kelson