Offline-l April 2012

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5 discussions

Improving the article selection process
by Jessie Wild 08 Aug '12

08 Aug '12

Hello! I recently made a "book" via the PediaPress Book Creator[1] prior to my trip to India, and it has been delightful to use and read on the flight and in my hotel room here. It had been awhile since I tried to make one, and I wanted to say great work and good job to PediaPress! Also, the integration with Kiwix was wonderful, and I love that it now shows up so seamlessly in my "Library" within Kiwix. I am not sure if you are aware, but in the recent Readership survey of Wikipedia readers (from Sept 2011, which is only just now being analyzed), the *number one request by readers was saving of articles for offline use (as a PDF): *40% of readers said they would be MORE LIKELY to use Wikipedia if such a service was available (note: this % is even higher in target areas like India (50%) and Brazil (52%).* *This is fascinating, for it shows that we (a) have a broader desire for offline content than just those without Internet access, and (b) indicates there is great opportunity for marketing the "Book Creator" tool. * * I want to discuss the points needed to get to (b). The Book Creator tool is great, and I think is the exact right type of tool to meet the needs of our readers; but there is much room for improvements. Right now, I personally find the experience getting to and from the Book Creator tool to be not as straight forward as would be most beneficial. As this service has such a huge demand, I think there are some opportunities for the refining of the "book creator" tool and process. I'd love thoughts on the following and more: - *Rebranding: *What are our thoughts on the title "Book Creator"? I wonder if the title itself is a bit confusing, since people are apparently unaware of the ability to download as PDF at all! Plus, I personally don't utilize the tools as a means for creating an actual book, though I recognize this was the initial purpose: I view it as a way to read a couple specific articles offline. I think using the word "collection," which we do informally anyway, is likely more appropriate here. Perhaps "Offline Collection Creator" or "Article Aggregator" (both terrible ideas, I know, but I'm just throwing things out there:)) - *Website placement: *I think it is obvious the space the Book Creator takes on the Left Hand tool bar is not enough to draw attention to the feature. I wonder if we should attempt to have some sort of a "Save for Offline Use" button on each article, which would then open a new window into the collection creator screen? This could look similar to the "Share this" links which exist on most information websites (for Facebook, Twitter, email, etc.). This could be next to the "Print" button. - *Marketing: *Once we feel a bit more confident about usability, it would be great to market the tool. We can do this in three phases: - Phase 1: emails to different mailing lists announcing the project, and asking for suggestions and feedback on the tools - Phase 2: "pilot" testing of the tool, with banner advertising to logged-in users - Phase 3: advertise this functionality via a banner at the top of Wikipedia! - *Measurement*: clearly, we should have careful tracking of *books created* and *downloads by file type* by day. @PediaPress: is this available yet? I have some other ideas as well, but wanted to throw these out there for some immediate reactions. What are people's thoughts? Any other ideas? Anyone good with website design who could help with rearranging of the "Book Creator"?? :) Looking forward to the discussion (which should be moved onto a wiki soon) - Jessie [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Book&bookcmd=book_creator…

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dev-l and offline-l mailinglists merged
by Manuel Schneider 01 May '12

01 May '12

Dear all, thanks to the WMF ops team who helped us consolidating the offline lists: dev-l(a)openzim.org, a low-volume list of openZIM developers has been merged with offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org, a low-volume list of general offline-related talk of Wikimedia. Most announcements have been cross-posted between both lists anyway in the past. The list archives have been merged as well and can be found here now: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/offline-l/ While openZIM started as a stand-alone project run by enthusiastic Wikimedians it became an integral part of the Wikimedia Offline projects in the meantime. This merge is another step in focusing efforts and build a common infrastructure. Regards, Manuel -- Regards Manuel Schneider Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge www.wikimedia.ch

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Write about Wikipedia Zero!
by Samuel Klein 30 Apr '12

30 Apr '12

Wikipedia Zero is starting to get more attention recently. We could use set of funny / beautiful / amazing images of it in use, and a compelling overview page to send people to that mentions how to can spread the word / get their local distributors or politicians or schools on board. Then we should run a little viral publicity campaign. It's really a very sexy project. We could frame it as something universal: "free access to Wikipedia on all mobile devices and networks." This seems to be the main project page for now, so I've been encouraging people to link to it in their posts. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Zero SJ -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266

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Offline Wikipedia on mobile devices?
by Jimmy Wales 19 Apr '12

19 Apr '12

I'm particularly interested in availability of Wikipedia on memory cards and the like. This is for a relatively small language, so extremely large size isn't the issue. I'm wanting to know if there is a way to distribute Wikipedia in a small language on memory cards for android phones. This is for people for whom data service is not available or cost prohibitive, and who may not have access to a computer for transfer. Physical distribution of cards is something that could be done. --Jimbo

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[IDEA] Sharing Place
by Emmanuel Engelhart 17 Apr '12

17 Apr '12

Hi We currently spread our offline content mostly online. In the case of ZIM files, many of them are really huge. I received today a feedback from Kiwix user in Spain who has downloaded the full WPES ZIM file (~10GB) over many weeks... at the end he has discovered that in the meantime we had released a new version of this file. He was obviously a little bit frustrated. What do you think about the idea of providing an online share-platform for ZIM files. A small Web site allowing people to: * announce that they have a file and are ready to give/copy it for someone * provide a solution to find thus people with a map * provide a solution to bring provider and searcher in touch Remarks? Does someone knows a software which maybe already does that? Regards Emmanuel

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