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Kiwix 2.4 for Linux & Windows finally released!
by Emmanuel Engelhart 25 Dec '24

25 Dec '24

Hi, This is our Christmas gift to the offline community: Kiwix 2.4 (desktop) for Linux and Windows has been published a few days ago! Even if this is a minor version, this version is the result of almost 2 years of work! With almost 230 issues fixed. This is by far the biggest release of this version of Kiwix since 2.0 went out... 5 years ago. Here are the most important improvements: * Revamping of the internal Library * Robuster download manager * Far better portable version * New table of content * Revamped search box ... here is the complete changelog https://github.com/kiwix/kiwix-desktop/releases/tag/2.4.0 This time again, beside the source code, we distribute binaries for Windows and GNU/Linux (appimage and flatpak): https://kiwix.org/en/applications/ This release is the result of the work of more than a dozen of developers. A handful of them having invested months of work each! As a result we have reached a good level of maturity for the this second generation of Kiwix for Linux and Windows. From now, we will do more often smaller releases to bring the new features and fixes needed and requested by our users! Hope a few of you can give a try during the Christmas break and share your feedbacks at https://github.com/kiwix/kiwix-desktop/issues. Kind regards and happy Christmas time! Kelson -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: https://kiwix.org/ * Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@kiwix * Wiki: https://wiki.kiwix.org/

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Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 141, Issue 6
by James Heilman 22 Dec '24

22 Dec '24

Thanks Benoit We should hopefully have an updated STL that snaps together ready to go in a couple of weeks. The other thing we are looking into is if we should get our own store page, ie via Shopify or what have you. Anyone have experience with that? We have just brought on a contractor to manage assembly and shipping. James On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 5:02 AM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Internet-in-a-Box (Benoit Beraud) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 10:42:20 +0100 > From: Benoit Beraud <benoit.beraud(a)oviles.info> > Subject: [Offline-l] Re: Internet-in-a-Box > To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline > <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > <CAGnPq9fqyPC8-0yR=rAO2DWGZCmq1b4VHKdkm34jRvh33ZVT2Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000e3c6540629d8b261" > > Hey James and all, > > Two good videos on the topic by someone having strong views on the topic: > - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmK-1qVu7qc > - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF3XPORAF0A > (and this guy said there are more coming on this topic). > > If I summarize what I got from these videos, I would say: > - an injection mold cost about 15k > - this is not worth it if you wanna propose multiple variants of your > product (meaning multiple molds) > - FDM is great until you are tired of problems of supports and associated > print defaults (i.e. if you can print without supports, like your case, > then FDM is the best solution) > - SLA is cool but all the associated chemicals is a pain and you still have > lots of manual postprocessing in many cases > - SLS is great to have mostly fully automated postprocessing, big batches, > unlimited possibilities of 3d design (no more overhang problems, you can > print mostly all you can dream of > - printing in-house is the only option he is ready to consider because it > gives him unlimited possibilities of customization (test new products or > variants) and production on-demand > > I'm not saying this person is right, but he has studied the topic quite a > lot. > > I think the decision also comes down to: > - are you willing to consider crowd-sourcing (paying for the associated > costs?) or would you prefer to print everything in-house or pay for a > supplier? > - how much money are you ready to invest up-front? both in terms of > hardware and in terms of stocking parts > - how many parts do you really need per week / month / year ? If you do not > mind to spread the production across the year, it could favor some scenarii > - do you plan to propose customizations (color, text, ...) or other > versions (other Pi, internal battery needing more space, ...) ? This is THE > strong argument for in-house production with 3D printing, being able to > quickly start a new product, and mostly not having to invest a penny > - are you happy with FDM prints quality, do you plan to need something else? > > HTH > > Benoît > > PS : I have a FDM printer ready for you, barely used ; quick computation > gives that it is easy to produce at least 20 cases (case + lid) per day, > 600 per month. And investing in a second machine to double production speed > is not a concern for me. I would happily contribute my time on this. > > Le jeu. 5 déc. 2024 à 23:32, James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> a écrit : > > > Hey All > > > > The Wikipedia store has once again sold out of Internet-in-a-Box. We at > > Wiki Project Med have used up all our 3D printed cases and are needing to > > get more, maybe a thousand or two. Thoughts on best way to do this? We had > > a volunteer print our prior 500 cases. > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > _______________________________________________ > > Offline-l mailing list -- offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to offline-l-leave(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > >

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Internet-in-a-Box
by James Heilman 22 Dec '24

22 Dec '24

Hey All The Wikipedia store has once again sold out of Internet-in-a-Box. We at Wiki Project Med have used up all our 3D printed cases and are needing to get more, maybe a thousand or two. Thoughts on best way to do this? We had a volunteer print our prior 500 cases. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

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[Kiwix]
by Pascal Martin 11 Dec '24

11 Dec '24

Hello, Jim Wales aka Jimbo had the idea to make an encyclopedia, but the first version of MediaWiki is attributed to Magnus Manke. Emmanuel Engelhart aka Kelson had the idea to make Kiwix, but the first version of Kiwix was made by Fabien Coulon for Linterweb. In opensource software, it is customary to attribute authorship to the coders of the first functional version of a software who made these sources public. This article don't mention Renaud or Emmanuel, but only Linterweb as designer on April 26, 2007 : https://web.archive.org/web/20070429040001/http://www.01net.com/editorial/3… I don't deny the participation of Emmanuel Engelhart on the mirror aspect at the beginning of the project, as he says on the first message on the list. "Hello everyone, just a quick email to introduce the people involved in kiwix. So far: Nytux (Fabien), he is the one who coded everything, so he is the one to ask questions about the search engine and the rest. He is an employee of Linterweb Pm27 (Pascal), he is the boss of Fabien and Linterweb, he is the treasurer. I had the idea for the project, I am a volunteer for Wikimedia France and I am responsible for dumps for Wikipedia selections. There you go. Emmanuel" https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/mailman/kiwix-developer/?limit=100&viewmont… Don't ask me why, but sourceforge didn't keep the branches, I don't know why but the waybackmachine kept some bits. Fabien Coulon aka Nytux aka Coulonito made the first commits on this branch of Kiwix. https://web.archive.org/web/20090803143858/http://sourceforge.net/users/cou… This screenshot is the first appearance of Kiwix, posted by Emmanuel Engelhart, it clearly says developed by Linterweb, thus recognizing our contributions at the time : https://web.archive.org/web/20070409082337/http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/I… Fabien Coulon had admin's rights from the beginning of the project: https://web.archive.org/web/20070306091713/http://sourceforge.net/projects/… The merger between the two projects took place only in 2008. In 2008 it was Guillaume Duhamel aka Yabause for Linterweb who also worked on it, he created the common branch with moulinkiwi. https://web.archive.org/web/20080915100426/http://kiwix.svn.sourceforge.net… https://www.clubic.com/actualite-243284-kiwix-wikipedia-cle-usb.html Once again we only talk about Linterweb as a designer on this version. As Guillaume points out, the only binaries for which we have not published the code were made for Okawix, in no case has Linterweb published binaries for Kiwix: https://linuxfr.org/nodes/96954/comments/1420846 I am surprised to don't find the mention of the linterweb employees's contribution on the Kiwix articles on Wikipedia in in english. Like on the Hispanic article that the disagreement would be about a disagreement on the sources. I broke the partnership following the ban on exploiting for commercial use of the Kiwix project, as the external source says. I am not trying to know who carried these rumors but that someone brings me the contributions of the creators' code. Is there any public proof of the contribution of the code to the first version of Kiwix that is attributed to Emmanuel and Renaud? Sorry to come back to a 15 year old story, but the distortions on Wikipedia articles led to an editing conflict on the French Kiwix article, considering Renaud Gaudin and Emmanuel Engelhart as the creator of Kiwix. But all the links prove that Kiwix was created by Fabien Coulon for Linterweb. For Linterweb, Pascal Martin

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New Kiwix iOS/Android mobile releases!
by Emmanuel Engelhart 09 Dec '24

09 Dec '24

Hello While an ancient and embittered developer spams the world and try to get more credits than he deserves, lets don't be distracted and focus on the essential: Kiwix continues its journey with two new minor mobile releases for iOS and Android. * Kiwix for Android 3.12.0 (104 issues treated) Beside a bunch of small improvements and bug fixes, this release introduces workarounds to Google Play measure which forbids to read a file anywhere on the filesystem. Full changelog https://github.com/kiwix/kiwix-android/blob/main/CHANGELOG * Kiwix for iOS (and macOS) 3.6.0 (47 issues treated) Lost of fixes, and the most important is the one impacting the download of very large ZIM files. Full changelog https://github.com/kiwix/kiwix-apple/releases/tag/3.6.0 Update your Kiwix! * https://ios.kiwix.org * https://android.kiwix.org Regards Kelson PS: A new version of Kiwix for Windows and Linux (with more than 200 fixes) is also ready: version 2.14.0 should be release before Christmas. -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: https://kiwix.org/ * Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@kiwix * Wiki: https://wiki.kiwix.org/

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Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 141, Issue 1
by James Heilman 07 Dec '24

07 Dec '24

Yes, I guess the question is where is that cut off? And if we go with injection molding, how to go about that? James On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 5:03 AM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 140, Issue 5 (Michael Graaf) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 22:01:56 +0200 > From: Michael Graaf <graaf.michael(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Offline-l] Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 140, Issue 5 > To: offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: > < > CANd2mJDNinOcqbsVnGLxQCBRnUuaFQNuen+cpy7j4MQz1ZbGzw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="00000000000081233206289f7d6b" > > Hi all, > > It varies with time & place, but above a certain number of copies, > injection moulding becomes cheaper than 3D-printing. > > Once the cost of a mould is sunk, the unit cost of each additional case is > way below the unit cost of a print. > > Hope that helps. > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:02 PM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Internet-in-a-Box (James Heilman) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:32:12 -0700 > > From: James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: [Offline-l] Internet-in-a-Box > > To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline > > <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > Message-ID: > > < > > CAF1en7XiB8ymCpWYXGJ5mMcYn8GJRshvZ+tHkEA1zsgz4Dcthg(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="000000000000f7ae2c06288d78a9" > > > > Hey All > > > > The Wikipedia store has once again sold out of Internet-in-a-Box. We at > > Wiki Project Med have used up all our 3D printed cases and are needing to > > get more, maybe a thousand or two. Thoughts on best way to do this? We > had > > a volunteer print our prior 500 cases. > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > >

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Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 140, Issue 5
by Michael Graaf 07 Dec '24

07 Dec '24

Hi all, It varies with time & place, but above a certain number of copies, injection moulding becomes cheaper than 3D-printing. Once the cost of a mould is sunk, the unit cost of each additional case is way below the unit cost of a print. Hope that helps. On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:02 PM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Internet-in-a-Box (James Heilman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:32:12 -0700 > From: James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Offline-l] Internet-in-a-Box > To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline > <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > < > CAF1en7XiB8ymCpWYXGJ5mMcYn8GJRshvZ+tHkEA1zsgz4Dcthg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000f7ae2c06288d78a9" > > Hey All > > The Wikipedia store has once again sold out of Internet-in-a-Box. We at > Wiki Project Med have used up all our 3D printed cases and are needing to > get more, maybe a thousand or two. Thoughts on best way to do this? We had > a volunteer print our prior 500 cases. > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >

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