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Internet-in-a-Box
by James Heilman 22 Dec '24

22 Dec '24

Hey All The Wikipedia store has once again sold out of Internet-in-a-Box. We at Wiki Project Med have used up all our 3D printed cases and are needing to get more, maybe a thousand or two. Thoughts on best way to do this? We had a volunteer print our prior 500 cases. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian

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[Kiwix]
by Pascal Martin 11 Dec '24

11 Dec '24

Hello, Jim Wales aka Jimbo had the idea to make an encyclopedia, but the first version of MediaWiki is attributed to Magnus Manke. Emmanuel Engelhart aka Kelson had the idea to make Kiwix, but the first version of Kiwix was made by Fabien Coulon for Linterweb. In opensource software, it is customary to attribute authorship to the coders of the first functional version of a software who made these sources public. This article don't mention Renaud or Emmanuel, but only Linterweb as designer on April 26, 2007 : https://web.archive.org/web/20070429040001/http://www.01net.com/editorial/3… I don't deny the participation of Emmanuel Engelhart on the mirror aspect at the beginning of the project, as he says on the first message on the list. "Hello everyone, just a quick email to introduce the people involved in kiwix. So far: Nytux (Fabien), he is the one who coded everything, so he is the one to ask questions about the search engine and the rest. He is an employee of Linterweb Pm27 (Pascal), he is the boss of Fabien and Linterweb, he is the treasurer. I had the idea for the project, I am a volunteer for Wikimedia France and I am responsible for dumps for Wikipedia selections. There you go. Emmanuel" https://sourceforge.net/p/kiwix/mailman/kiwix-developer/?limit=100&viewmont… Don't ask me why, but sourceforge didn't keep the branches, I don't know why but the waybackmachine kept some bits. Fabien Coulon aka Nytux aka Coulonito made the first commits on this branch of Kiwix. https://web.archive.org/web/20090803143858/http://sourceforge.net/users/cou… This screenshot is the first appearance of Kiwix, posted by Emmanuel Engelhart, it clearly says developed by Linterweb, thus recognizing our contributions at the time : https://web.archive.org/web/20070409082337/http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/I… Fabien Coulon had admin's rights from the beginning of the project: https://web.archive.org/web/20070306091713/http://sourceforge.net/projects/… The merger between the two projects took place only in 2008. In 2008 it was Guillaume Duhamel aka Yabause for Linterweb who also worked on it, he created the common branch with moulinkiwi. https://web.archive.org/web/20080915100426/http://kiwix.svn.sourceforge.net… https://www.clubic.com/actualite-243284-kiwix-wikipedia-cle-usb.html Once again we only talk about Linterweb as a designer on this version. As Guillaume points out, the only binaries for which we have not published the code were made for Okawix, in no case has Linterweb published binaries for Kiwix: https://linuxfr.org/nodes/96954/comments/1420846 I am surprised to don't find the mention of the linterweb employees's contribution on the Kiwix articles on Wikipedia in in english. Like on the Hispanic article that the disagreement would be about a disagreement on the sources. I broke the partnership following the ban on exploiting for commercial use of the Kiwix project, as the external source says. I am not trying to know who carried these rumors but that someone brings me the contributions of the creators' code. Is there any public proof of the contribution of the code to the first version of Kiwix that is attributed to Emmanuel and Renaud? Sorry to come back to a 15 year old story, but the distortions on Wikipedia articles led to an editing conflict on the French Kiwix article, considering Renaud Gaudin and Emmanuel Engelhart as the creator of Kiwix. But all the links prove that Kiwix was created by Fabien Coulon for Linterweb. For Linterweb, Pascal Martin

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New Kiwix iOS/Android mobile releases!
by Emmanuel Engelhart 09 Dec '24

09 Dec '24

Hello While an ancient and embittered developer spams the world and try to get more credits than he deserves, lets don't be distracted and focus on the essential: Kiwix continues its journey with two new minor mobile releases for iOS and Android. * Kiwix for Android 3.12.0 (104 issues treated) Beside a bunch of small improvements and bug fixes, this release introduces workarounds to Google Play measure which forbids to read a file anywhere on the filesystem. Full changelog https://github.com/kiwix/kiwix-android/blob/main/CHANGELOG * Kiwix for iOS (and macOS) 3.6.0 (47 issues treated) Lost of fixes, and the most important is the one impacting the download of very large ZIM files. Full changelog https://github.com/kiwix/kiwix-apple/releases/tag/3.6.0 Update your Kiwix! * https://ios.kiwix.org * https://android.kiwix.org Regards Kelson PS: A new version of Kiwix for Windows and Linux (with more than 200 fixes) is also ready: version 2.14.0 should be release before Christmas. -- Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more * Web: https://kiwix.org/ * Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@kiwix * Wiki: https://wiki.kiwix.org/

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Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 141, Issue 1
by James Heilman 07 Dec '24

07 Dec '24

Yes, I guess the question is where is that cut off? And if we go with injection molding, how to go about that? James On Sat, Dec 7, 2024 at 5:03 AM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 140, Issue 5 (Michael Graaf) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 22:01:56 +0200 > From: Michael Graaf <graaf.michael(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Offline-l] Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 140, Issue 5 > To: offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Message-ID: > < > CANd2mJDNinOcqbsVnGLxQCBRnUuaFQNuen+cpy7j4MQz1ZbGzw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="00000000000081233206289f7d6b" > > Hi all, > > It varies with time & place, but above a certain number of copies, > injection moulding becomes cheaper than 3D-printing. > > Once the cost of a mould is sunk, the unit cost of each additional case is > way below the unit cost of a print. > > Hope that helps. > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:02 PM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Internet-in-a-Box (James Heilman) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:32:12 -0700 > > From: James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > > Subject: [Offline-l] Internet-in-a-Box > > To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline > > <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > Message-ID: > > < > > CAF1en7XiB8ymCpWYXGJ5mMcYn8GJRshvZ+tHkEA1zsgz4Dcthg(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="000000000000f7ae2c06288d78a9" > > > > Hey All > > > > The Wikipedia store has once again sold out of Internet-in-a-Box. We at > > Wiki Project Med have used up all our 3D printed cases and are needing to > > get more, maybe a thousand or two. Thoughts on best way to do this? We > had > > a volunteer print our prior 500 cases. > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > >

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Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 140, Issue 5
by Michael Graaf 06 Dec '24

06 Dec '24

Hi all, It varies with time & place, but above a certain number of copies, injection moulding becomes cheaper than 3D-printing. Once the cost of a mould is sunk, the unit cost of each additional case is way below the unit cost of a print. Hope that helps. On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:02 PM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Internet-in-a-Box (James Heilman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:32:12 -0700 > From: James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Offline-l] Internet-in-a-Box > To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline > <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: > < > CAF1en7XiB8ymCpWYXGJ5mMcYn8GJRshvZ+tHkEA1zsgz4Dcthg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="000000000000f7ae2c06288d78a9" > > Hey All > > The Wikipedia store has once again sold out of Internet-in-a-Box. We at > Wiki Project Med have used up all our 3D printed cases and are needing to > get more, maybe a thousand or two. Thoughts on best way to do this? We had > a volunteer print our prior 500 cases. > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian >

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Offline Conference
by James Heilman 28 Oct '24

28 Oct '24

We had an offline conference a number of years ago. A lot has changed since then. Wondering if folks think it would be useful having an offline day before or after Wikimania or Wiki Con North America etc? By the way the sales page is up again at the Wikipedia store https://store.wikimedia.org/products/internet-in-a-box We are also looking at expanding the sites of assembly. And discussing if we should add more options of machines, ie rasp pi 4 or 5 Best J Sent from Gmail Mobile

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Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 140, Issue 2
by James Heilman 28 Oct '24

28 Oct '24

Thanks Stephane, we have recently shipped another 190 units to the Wikipedia Store. It will take a bit more work on both our ends before we can get more for sale and this will not be until December at the earliest. So still a limited supply :-) James On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 7:03 PM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Offline Conference (Stephane Coillet-Matillon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 02:28:41 +0100 > From: "Stephane Coillet-Matillon" <stephane(a)kiwix.org> > Subject: [Offline-l] Re: Offline Conference > To: "'Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline'" > <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, "'Tim Moody'" <tim(a)timmoody.com> > Message-ID: <00b601db28d8$ba7e2dc0$2f7a8940$(a)kiwix.org> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B7_01DB28E1.1C446A80" > > One of us will probably be at Wikimania, so yes that would be a good idea – and as Michael says Africa is a massive use case for offline. > > > > We are also in the process of validating a Pi5 box, so it’ll be good to compare notes. > > > > @james: I am planning to send out our quarterly-ish newsletter (ca. 3’000 folks) over the next few days and will flag that IIAB is back at the Wikipedia Store: how many did you procure this time? > > > > SCM > > > > De : James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > Envoyé : Saturday, 26 October 2024 03:33 > À : Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>; Tim Moody <tim(a)timmoody.com> > Objet : [Offline-l] Offline Conference > > > > We had an offline conference a number of years ago. A lot has changed since then. Wondering if folks think it would be useful having an offline day before or after Wikimania or Wiki Con North America etc? > > > > By the way the sales page is up again at the Wikipedia store > > https://store.wikimedia.org/products/internet-in-a-box > > > > We are also looking at expanding the sites of assembly. And discussing if we should add more options of machines, ie rasp pi 4 or 5 > > > > Best > > J > > > > Sent from Gmail Mobile > >

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Re: Offline-l Digest, Vol 139, Issue 2
by Michael Graaf 27 Oct '24

27 Oct '24

Hi all, Wikimania is in Nairobi next year, and as it happens, Kiwix is booming in Africa. The Open Foundation West Africa has put a lot of resources into building user communities, which was obvious at the recent Wiki Indaba in Johannesburg, where there was a hackathon channel <https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiIndaba_conference_2024/Program#Hackat…> for the second time. So, what James is saying makes sense! Regards, On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 2:03 PM <offline-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Offline-l mailing list submissions to > offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/offline-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > You can reach the person managing the list at > offline-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Offline-l digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Offline Conference (James Heilman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 09:32:44 +0800 > From: James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Offline-l] Offline Conference > To: Using Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki offline > <offline-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Tim Moody <tim(a)timmoody.com> > Message-ID: > <CAF1en7WBBEAONtSRMXvW+B= > kqOC7g92pMkb5gvQAWjnczK87gw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="00000000000007e06f06255737f3" > > We had an offline conference a number of years ago. A lot has changed since > then. Wondering if folks think it would be useful having an offline day > before or after Wikimania or Wiki Con North America etc? > > By the way the sales page is up again at the Wikipedia store > https://store.wikimedia.org/products/internet-in-a-box > > We are also looking at expanding the sites of assembly. And discussing if > we should add more options of machines, ie rasp pi 4 or 5 > > Best > J > > Sent from Gmail Mobile >

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Publication of the "Wikimedians for Offline Wikis User Group" annual report
by Florence Devouard 28 Sep '24

28 Sep '24

Hello everyone You will find the report of our UG here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects/Reports/June_2024 If you are interested by the offline topics, do not hesitate to join us User:Anthere, User:Sj and the rest of the group

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Annual report
by Florence Devouard 16 Aug '24

16 Aug '24

Yes ! It is that time of the year again ! And much to my surprise... I discovered that the page already existed because Stephane created it 9 months ago :) So there it is... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects/Reports/June_2024 Your turn.... ***** This being said... following feedback processes... it seems there is a wish for affiliates to considering meeting some Health Criterias. I am linking this here : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Affiliates_Strategy/Im… Well Anthere

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