Hi there,
As you may have seen on toolserver-l, I'm new here and I'd like to improve OSM-data by displaying access rights on different layers (as I'm doing here: http://access.t-i.ch/ ).
As far as I understand the discussion at [1], first thing would be to apply for getting added to the OSM-Prject-Group, right? This shall be done hereby. :)
Is there any documentation what I have to do thereafter to get my tiles rendered at eg. http://toolserver.org/tiles/ti/<vehicle_type> or is more or less 'copy-paste' from existing projects?
If so, I will try to set up a wiki-page with all your collected tipps on how to use mod_tile so the next newbie doesn't have to bother you that much. ;) (Maybe for some little-used keys like 'hgv' I will also try to set up a Query-to-map..)
thanks, Thomas (ti)
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2010-May/000623.html ff.
Thomas Ineichen schrieb:
As you may have seen on toolserver-l, I'm new here and I'd like to improve OSM-data by displaying access rights on different layers (as I'm doing here: http://access.t-i.ch/ ).
As far as I understand the discussion at [1], first thing would be to apply for getting added to the OSM-Prject-Group, right? This shall be done hereby. :)
Beeing a member of this group gives you administrative control over the osm systems. If you just want to work on you're stylem this is not necessary.
Is there any documentation what I have to do thereafter to get my tiles rendered at eg. http://toolserver.org/tiles/ti/<vehicle_type> or is more or less 'copy-paste' from existing projects?
Not yet. Test your style using the command line render tool (at the end of [1]). If your finished, come back and send the url to your style to this list. I or another member of the osm group will install it in renderd.
If so, I will try to set up a wiki-page with all your collected tipps on how to use mod_tile so the next newbie doesn't have to bother you that much. ;)
He shouldn't need to know about the exact setup but only on how to test the style using the command lien tool and how to submit it to the list.
(Maybe for some little-used keys like 'hgv' I will also try to set up a Query-to-map..)
Peter
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2010-May/000623.html ff.
Hallo Peter,
Beeing a member of this group gives you administrative control over the osm systems. If you just want to work on you're stylem this is not necessary.
Ah, ok, I won't need that. :)
He shouldn't need to know about the exact setup but only on how to test the style using the command lien tool and how to submit it to the list.
With the help of /home/mazder/styles/surveillance/surveillance.xml I found the necessary settings. Yay, it works! :)
/home/ti/styles/bicycle.xml http://toolserver.org/~ti/map.png
Is it possible to (read-)access the Postgre-DB from outside? So far I use pgAdmin as a graphical interface for my querries (e.g. to see what different values there are for 'bicycle').
Regards, Thomas
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2010-May/000623.html ff.
Zitat von Thomas Ineichen toolserver.mailinglist@t-i.ch:
Is it possible to (read-)access the Postgre-DB from outside? So far I use pgAdmin as a graphical interface for my querries (e.g. to see what different values there are for 'bicycle').
You will not get database access from outside, but you can use ssh-tunneling(like I): ssh -L 2342:sql-mapnik:5432 kolossos@login.toolserver.org and use the database than as it would be local on port 2342. Works fine under linux. Be carefull that the result is never too large.
Greetings Kolossos
Tim Alder schrieb:
Works fine under linux.
This works with PuTTy under Windows, too.
http://www.devdaily.com/unix/edu/putty-ssh-tunnel-firefox-socks-proxy/
Peter
Hi,
I have now adjusted the paragraph on who to get your own style on http://wiki.toolserver.org/view/OpenStreetMap
Feel free to ameliorate. ;)
Could you then add
/home/ti/styles/bicycle.xml
to the render? Cf. http://access.t-i.ch/ for the result.
thanks, Thomas
Thomas Ineichen schrieb:
Could you then add
/home/ti/styles/bicycle.xml
I did so:
http://toolserver.org/tiles/bicycle/12/2142/1389.png http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?zoom=12&lat=50.00859&lon=8.3186&a...
It seems your style is not rendered below zoomlevel 10. Is this intended behavior?
Peter
Hi Peter,
I did so:
http://toolserver.org/tiles/bicycle/12/2142/1389.png http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?zoom=12&lat=50.00859&lon=8.3186&a...
I just saw that and I'm already changing my website. Thanks a lot!
It seems your style is not rendered below zoomlevel 10. Is this intended behavior?
At the moment: yes.
I haven't spent much thought yet about what to render on which level. Maybe I just draw (Inter-)National Cycling Routes below 10. I'll start a thread over at OSM and put a feedback form online to see what 'the crowd' thinks.
Regards, Thomas
Hi Peter,
Please remember that we need to reload the renderd if you change your style and we also need to purge the pre-rendered tiles on zoom levels <10 if you start rendering there. So mail to this list if you want sth. to be changed.
Maybe it would be possible to create a cron job to check once a day if any style was updated? Of course I still test my styles on my local machine first, but I could imagine that it'll take some weeks untill the style will be relatively stable.
I would feel better if hadn't to bother you twice a week.. ;)
Regards, Thomas
Thomas Ineichen schrieb:
Maybe it would be possible to create a cron job to check once a day if any style was updated? Of course I still test my styles on my local machine first, but I could imagine that it'll take some weeks untill the style will be relatively stable.
You can test it on the live server using the command line "render" tool and just come up with it here once you finished.
I would feel better if hadn't to bother you twice a week.. ;)
changing the style twice a week means discarding all rendered tiles twice a week so this is nothing I'd appreciate.
If your style changed there's no problem in mailing to the list. It may take some time until so. responds but so we all can keep track on what's happening on the TS.
Peter
2010/6/15 Peter Körner osm-lists@mazdermind.de:
Thomas Ineichen schrieb:
Maybe it would be possible to create a cron job to check once a day if any style was updated? Of course I still test my styles on my local machine first, but I could imagine that it'll take some weeks untill the style will be relatively stable.
You can test it on the live server using the command line "render" tool and just come up with it here once you finished.
I would feel better if hadn't to bother you twice a week.. ;)
changing the style twice a week means discarding all rendered tiles twice a week so this is nothing I'd appreciate.
Maybe you can get around with doing just style updates without deleting old tiles. This would require you to do manual /dirtying of interesting areas, but may still be nicer during development. (The hikebikemap purely relies on /dirty for now.)
If your style changed there's no problem in mailing to the list. It may take some time until so. responds but so we all can keep track on what's happening on the TS.
ACK. I also restart renderd every once in a while as I do improvements to my style.
Cheers Colin
[I lost some of the mails in my inbox]
No worries, I wouldn't want to change my style *every* day. But now in the beginning, with a lot of user feedback, there is more changing than there will be in about 2 or 3 months. After that, I hope that it only needs an update twice or trice a year. :)
If the weather is still that bad on the weekend, I will also have a look at the query-to-map, maybe that would be a more flexible option for me.
Anyway: I updated my style and uploaded two new ones:
/home/ti/styles/bicycle.xml Now only contains bicycle and cycleway-Tags
/home/ti/styles/bicycle_combined.xml the former bicycle.xml; also contains things like maxspeed=30, etc.
/home/ti/styles/access.xml represents the highest access-layer, all access-values that are not in the official list will be drawn as a black line.
Thanks for adding, Thomas
Am 17.06.2010 18:36, schrieb Thomas Ineichen:
Anyway: I updated my style and uploaded two new ones:
I updated the renderd conf:
/home/ti/styles/bicycle.xml Now only contains bicycle and cycleway-Tags
http://toolserver.org/tiles/bicycle-simple/0/0/0.png http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?zoom=15&lat=49.78185&lon=8.19576&layers=B000F0FF0000F0FTF
/home/ti/styles/bicycle_combined.xml the former bicycle.xml; also contains things like maxspeed=30, etc.
http://toolserver.org/tiles/bicycle/0/0/0.png http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?zoom=15&lat=49.78185&lon=8.19576&layers=B000F0FF0000F0TFF
/home/ti/styles/access.xml represents the highest access-layer, all access-values that are not in the official list will be drawn as a black line.
http://toolserver.org/tiles/bicycle-access/0/0/0.png http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/?zoom=15&lat=49.78185&lon=8.19576&layers=B000F0FF0000F0FFT
Peter