Thank you everyone who participated! A few ideas discussed, please add if i missed anything:
* Get more involvement with OSM community mailing lists * Use "osm" instead of "osm-intl" layer as the base, but bring in the street names * Evaluate migration of WIWOSM's frontend to Simon's code, with the following merge in into Kartographer extension * Evaluate migration of WIWOSM database to production servers * Use Wikiminiatlas's label placing logic in Kartographer * Wait until Mapnik hstore support for multi-lingual maps * Would love to get a wiki-specific map design
Here's a copy of the chat we had running - I cleaned it up a bit. This is mostly for us to remember the posted links.
### Jo Hannes WIWOSM
### Max Semenik https://github.com/aiomaster/WIWOSM ?
### Jo Hannes Do you use wikidata tags on the OSM objects?
### Blake Girardot Here are two relevant OSM wiki links, not sure how up to date they are, just for background or information. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WIWOSM
### Yuri Astrakhan http://vem.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
### Blake Girardot http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_Wikipedia Is there outreach to the OSM email lists?
### Yuri Astrakhan https://github.com/kartotherian/osm-bright.tm2source
### Max Semenik https://github.com/kartotherian/osm-bright.tm2source/blob/master/data.yml#L4...
### Blake Girardot Yes, that is true We had long discussion about it in May on Tagging list I think most are open to the idea
### Max Semenik And I was one of bottery proponents in it:)
### Jo Hannes I had already started with that...
### Blake Girardot I just see very little mention of wiwosm at all, announcments in 2012, but not much since.
### Jo Hannes adding streets and where their names come from yes, better to get it right for all languages I will, but don't want to interrupt the flow of the conversation. Mostly listening in. Very interestting
### Yuri Astrakhan https://maps.wikimedia.org/?s=osm
### Daniel Schwen Sounds like a compromise worth pursuing
### Yuri Astrakhan https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Kartographer
### Blake Girardot Thank you very much, it was very interesting
### Yuri Astrakhan https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kartenwerkstatt/Positions...
### Blake Girardot My only suggestion is more outreach on the OSM lists for collaboration. osm-talk, osm-tagging or osm-dev, might find more help etc. maybe even the mapbox people. I apologize if you already have and I have just missed it, I am not on osm-dev
### Daniel Schwen Good point about the two use cases the popup will have to be general but the embedded map must be *very* customizable
### Blake Girardot I see. interesting 700k wikipedia tags current v. 40k wiki data in OSM according to taginfo oh wow, me too the josm plugin sounds great
### Daniel Schwen Ok, guys, I have to go! Interesting to see this gaining momentum. I will follow this, keep me in the loop.
### Blake Girardot Yes we do
### Jo Hannes cu later oh, I was saying bye to Daniel aware of the potential for privacy ivnasion
### Blake Girardot Thank you very much everyone
On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yastrakhan@wikimedia.org wrote:
Update: If you want to discuss maps, please join this hangout https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/wikimedia.org/yastrakhan
Monday, December 21, 19:00 UTC / 2:00pm EST / 11:00 am Pacific
If you have any problems connecting, or if you want to talk at a different time, email me directly at yuri@wikimedia.org
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yastrakhan@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Anyone who wants to participate in this discussion is welcome to join the hangout.
How about next Monday, December 21, 19:00 UTC / 2:00pm EST / 11:00 am Pacific
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Tim Alder tim@alder-digital.de wrote:
Hello Yuri, if you look on the updated version of the map from Simon[1] you can see that we use now text labels for Wikipedia entries.
This is a design element from the WikiMiniAtlas and I think it has an positiv effect for the user to set the visual focus on Wikipedia content. It's also the aim to look different that google maps and it's a quick (and dirty) way to multilingual maps. ;-)
The problem we have now is, that we have on zommlevels that are on Country level tons of duplications because we have the Wikipedia-label and the Text from OSM background. If we only switch to a background style I would miss useful informations from OSM like street names. So it would be interesting to discuse if we could get an map where objects with an Wikipedia/Wikidata tag are transparent. We can also talk about if we can get a vector tiles layer with these objects from my database to use the geojson tiles in Leaflet... I also see a chance that labels are becoming more consitant during panning and zooming in.
So perhaps it would be possible if you could prepair an hangout to talk about this and find a date for it via doodle or so. Europes evening hours would be fine for me, but it's christmas time and the people are busy.
Best regards, Tim alias Kolossos
[1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wiwosm/osm-gadget-leaflet/#/?lang=en&article=L...