Hi,
I'm sorry about the state of the OSM Toolserver. I said I would fix it, but
I didn't. However, I will finally be having a look at this tomorrow (or
possibly Thursday). Before I do that, there's a couple of things I'd like
to address.
Firstly, PostgreSQL. On cassini, some users had either root access or
access to the postgres user. I don't feel comfortable doing this on ptolemy
(and it would also mean using separate database passwords, etc. just for
that server). However, I can give out full (owner) access to the 'osm'
database.
Rather than give this to a single user, I think it makes sense to create a
multi-maintainer project to handle OSM databases. An MMT[0] is a role
account that multiple users have access to. The 'osm' MMT will have owner
access to the osm database on ptolemy. Since this does not confer any
additional privileges, and the OSM data is not private, we can easily add
people to the MMT (Peter, Tim?), and these people will be responsible for
ensuring the database is available.
This is better than the current situation where only I have access, since
I'm not particularly familiar with either OSM or the PostgreSQL extensions
it uses. However, final responsibility for the OSM database (as well as
software installation/changes) will still lie with me.
If this sounds acceptable to everyone, I will drop the current outdated osm
database on ptolemy, and create a new, empty database and the MMT. People
who want access to the MMT should let me know (by replying to this mail with
your TS username). Those people can then start on the process of importing
the database and setting up replication.
Secondly: renderd/mod_tile. I'm open to suggestions here. Currently, I
plan to run renderd and mod_tile on ptolemy, which means only I will have
access. However, there are quite a few portability issues with the OSM
software which I've had to fix. I would appreciate it if someone with
commit access to OSM's SVN repository would be able to work with me to
integrate these patches, to make things easier in future.
I will wait until PostgreSQL is working well before starting on rendered.
Regards,
River.
[0] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Multi-maintainer_projects
Hello all,
cassini was non-responsive to ssh today (it made also problems in the days
before) and so I (hard-)rebooted it today and made some updates. Details under
https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/MNT-387
Sincerly,
DaB.
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Hello,
here are some personal notices from fossgis-conferences[1] in Osnabrück.
It was a nice meeting we a lot of open-source GIS-developer and
a lot of friendly OSM people.
Special interesting was the contact with Sven Geggus, admin of
dev.openstreetmap.de.
We saw that we have the same problems on his server and on toolserver,
so that it will be good to stay in contact.
A specially, an efficient database structure with all tags to build
something like the XAPI would be very nice.
One solution could be perhaps the postgres hstore [2]. Also the
no-sql-databases like couchDB (geocouch)[4] and MonetDB were hot topics.
There was a speech with a lot of listeners
from mazdermind about the status and the future chances of our
wikipedia-osm-cooperation.[5]
We saw in a community session after this talk that not so many
WP/OSM-people have the knowledge
to work with GIS tools and GIS databases. So it seems necessary to give
more people a starting point. I like for this the usage of live systems
[3]. This problem was for me a reason to start on toolserver-wiki a
little first step tutorial [6] and I listing there some tools that now
running on toolserver. Feel free to add things that I have forgotten.
So I get over the days many new ideas how both projects can profit in
the detail:
*We can use the wikipedia-interwikilinks to bring this datas into OSM
for interlingual maps.
*If we could bring the Wikipedia geocoded objects into Openstreetmap
(by the half-automatic way I posted in the past), the Wikipedia objects
could be drawn better in a map with nice icons with the help of
OSM-tags. (We have too many landmarks objects in the wikipedia dataset.)
*We can use GIS-tools like GDAL with GDAL2tiles.py e.g. to split huge
commons-images in tiles and present them faster with openLayers as
TMS[7], so that the user don't need to download the whole file.
Greetings Kolossos
[1] http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz
[2] http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/hstore.html
[3] http://www.fossgis.de/projekte_gislive.htmlhttp://www.lingner.eu/discosm
[4] http://gitorious.org/geocouch/
[5] http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2010/attachments/66_OpenStreetMap
und die Wikipedia.pdf
[6] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/OpenStreetMap
[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tile_Map_Service
There's now a replacement for renderd: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tirex
I haven't figured out how to make it do the equivalent of our
/etc/renderd.conf but it looks very promising.
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