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Hi,
I plan to enable a guided bug entry form on Wikimedia Bugzilla for newbies, to make reporting issues slightly easier. It can be seen on http://boogs.wmflabs.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&format=guided Login: test@test.wmflabs Password: testtest
Is this utterly horrible and unusable, or can I deploy it on bugzilla.wikimedia.org without making designers scream and ignore me for the rest of my life? The CSS isn't great (at least it *is* CSS now, sigh), but I needed to start somewhere.
Thanks in advance, andre
PS: Quick'n'dirty CSS recommendations are also welcome.
Andre, how much control over this do we have?
a few notes:
Step 1 of 3: Find out if your issue has already been reported, Please search if your bug or feature request has been already reported by entering some search words in this box that have to do with your issue, for example upload error or search empty. Then press the Search button. The results will appear in the box below.
This is pretty verbose, and feels very repetitive, can we just say:
"Search to see if your issue has already been reported." __________ [ Search Issues ]
for the search results can we refactor them a bit
Summary / Product / Component / last updated / Assigned to / [This is my issue]
[This is my issue] would prompt the user to add the bug to their watch bugs list if they have an account, or prompt them to create an account otherwise.
Can we have the search step on its own page, e.g. force users to search before you can manually add their own? The option to add your own could show up after you've done a search.
[ My issue is new ]
I assume there will be other components in the list, only one is showing now, why is it duplicated in the box and to the right of the box?
Can we swap Summary and Component areas?
Having images is VERY helpful esp. if it is a design issue, Can we add an image upload step after summary step, and allow multiple images?
is URL usually have helpful information in it, if so perhaps we could move that field up below results/expected results
Can we make reproducibility an optional step and just add the control under the "steps to reproduce" not in a new section just below the text field?
Wrap the remaining questions in a collapsed section called "Advanced", Additional notes, browser, OS(?), mediawiki version(?), etc.
a few overall notes
- I think we could get by and still be clear with much less text - I don't think we need to have step 1,2,3, especially if we can move the search to its own page
Overall this is a great improvement. If you're up for making some changes and iterating on it later when the design team or I have some free cycles that would be great.
Jared
* * * * *Jared Zimmerman * \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmermanhttps://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.orgwrote:
[Please CC me on answers as I'm not subscribed.]
Hi,
I plan to enable a guided bug entry form on Wikimedia Bugzilla for newbies, to make reporting issues slightly easier. It can be seen on http://boogs.wmflabs.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&format=guided Login: test@test.wmflabs Password: testtest
Is this utterly horrible and unusable, or can I deploy it on bugzilla.wikimedia.org without making designers scream and ignore me for the rest of my life? The CSS isn't great (at least it *is* CSS now, sigh), but I needed to start somewhere.
Thanks in advance, andre
PS: Quick'n'dirty CSS recommendations are also welcome.
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
On 13-09-25 09:39 AM, Andre Klapper wrote:
[Please CC me on answers as I'm not subscribed.]
Hi,
I plan to enable a guided bug entry form on Wikimedia Bugzilla for newbies, to make reporting issues slightly easier. It can be seen on http://boogs.wmflabs.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&format=guided Login: test@test.wmflabs Password: testtest
Is this utterly horrible and unusable, or can I deploy it on bugzilla.wikimedia.org without making designers scream and ignore me for the rest of my life? The CSS isn't great (at least it *is* CSS now, sigh), but I needed to start somewhere.
Thanks in advance, andre
PS: Quick'n'dirty CSS recommendations are also welcome.
(Iamnotadesigner,butplayoneinmymind) Overall, I love it. A few notes:
* I assume we'll be able to enter default [product/component] to be set, as part of the URL string? (Eg. So that we can link to the form at VisualEditor's Feedback page)
* Severity dropdown: copyedit needed: "An average a bug that [...]"
* Please add a warning that "your email address will be publicly displayed"
* Any chance of a "preview" feature? I hate not knowing whether wikimarkup will work properly or not. (Afaik, interwiki links work as expected, but no other wikimarkup does.)
quiddity
Heja,
thanks for the feedback!
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 10:42 -0700, Quiddity wrote:
- I assume we'll be able to enter default [product/component] to be set,
as part of the URL string? (Eg. So that we can link to the form at VisualEditor's Feedback page)
Yes, you can pass URL parameter(s), like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component...
- Severity dropdown: copyedit needed: "An average a bug that [...]"
- Please add a warning that "your email address will be publicly displayed"
Added as to-do to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36762
- Any chance of a "preview" feature? I hate not knowing whether
wikimarkup will work properly or not. (Afaik, interwiki links work as expected, but no other wikimarkup does.)
Very unlikely, unfortunately. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5719 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40896
andre
sounds good, can't wait to see the next iteration, for "Results" and "Expectations", those should stay where they are currently, and not be collapsed behind Advanced i think.
* * * * *Jared Zimmerman * \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmermanhttps://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Heja,
thanks for the feedback!
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 10:42 -0700, Quiddity wrote:
- I assume we'll be able to enter default [product/component] to be set,
as part of the URL string? (Eg. So that we can link to the form at VisualEditor's Feedback page)
Yes, you can pass URL parameter(s), like
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component...
- Severity dropdown: copyedit needed: "An average a bug that [...]"
- Please add a warning that "your email address will be publicly
displayed"
Added as to-do to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36762
- Any chance of a "preview" feature? I hate not knowing whether
wikimarkup will work properly or not. (Afaik, interwiki links work as expected, but no other wikimarkup does.)
Very unlikely, unfortunately. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5719 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40896
andre
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
Hey Andre, any update on this? I'd love to help push this though is possible.
*Jared Zimmerman * \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation
M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmermanhttps://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Jared Zimmerman < jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org> wrote:
sounds good, can't wait to see the next iteration, for "Results" and "Expectations", those should stay where they are currently, and not be collapsed behind Advanced i think.
*Jared Zimmerman * \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmermanhttps://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Heja,
thanks for the feedback!
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 10:42 -0700, Quiddity wrote:
- I assume we'll be able to enter default [product/component] to be set,
as part of the URL string? (Eg. So that we can link to the form at VisualEditor's Feedback page)
Yes, you can pass URL parameter(s), like
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component...
- Severity dropdown: copyedit needed: "An average a bug that [...]"
- Please add a warning that "your email address will be publicly
displayed"
Added as to-do to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36762
- Any chance of a "preview" feature? I hate not knowing whether
wikimarkup will work properly or not. (Afaik, interwiki links work as expected, but no other wikimarkup does.)
Very unlikely, unfortunately. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5719 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40896
andre
Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
Hi Jared,
thanks for coming back to this!
An initial version got deployed two weeks ago (announcement at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-October/072786.html ). For ideas how to further improve this, feel free to either use this mailing list thread to discuss, or for actionable items a ticket in bugzilla.wikimedia.org under "Wikimedia > Bugzilla".
Cheers, andre
On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 14:16 +0100, Jared Zimmerman wrote:
Hey Andre, any update on this? I'd love to help push this though is possible.
Jared Zimmerman \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation
M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Jared Zimmerman jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org wrote: sounds good, can't wait to see the next iteration, for "Results" and "Expectations", those should stay where they are currently, and not be collapsed behind Advanced i think.
Jared Zimmerman \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Andre Klapper <aklapper@wikimedia.org> wrote: Heja, thanks for the feedback! On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 10:42 -0700, Quiddity wrote: > * I assume we'll be able to enter default [product/component] to be set, > as part of the URL string? (Eg. So that we can link to the form at > VisualEditor's Feedback page) Yes, you can pass URL parameter(s), like https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component=Bugzilla > * Severity dropdown: copyedit needed: "An average a bug that [...]" > * Please add a warning that "your email address will be publicly displayed" Added as to-do to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36762 > * Any chance of a "preview" feature? I hate not knowing whether > wikimarkup will work properly or not. (Afaik, interwiki links work as > expected, but no other wikimarkup does.) Very unlikely, unfortunately. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5719 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40896 andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ _______________________________________________ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design
I don't think a lot of the designers are on wikitech-l so that probably why you didn't get a lot of feedback.
Thanks!
*Jared Zimmerman * \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation
M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmermanhttps://twitter.com/JaredZimmerman
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Andre Klapper aklapper@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi Jared,
thanks for coming back to this!
An initial version got deployed two weeks ago (announcement at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-October/072786.html ). For ideas how to further improve this, feel free to either use this mailing list thread to discuss, or for actionable items a ticket in bugzilla.wikimedia.org under "Wikimedia > Bugzilla".
Cheers, andre
On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 14:16 +0100, Jared Zimmerman wrote:
Hey Andre, any update on this? I'd love to help push this though is possible.
Jared Zimmerman \ Director of User Experience \ Wikimedia Foundation
M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Jared Zimmerman jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.org wrote: sounds good, can't wait to see the next iteration, for "Results" and "Expectations", those should stay where they are currently, and not be collapsed behind Advanced i think.
Jared Zimmerman \\ Director of User Experience \\ Wikimedia Foundation M : +1 415 609 4043 | : @JaredZimmerman On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Andre Klapper <aklapper@wikimedia.org> wrote: Heja, thanks for the feedback! On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 10:42 -0700, Quiddity wrote: > * I assume we'll be able to enter default [product/component] to be set, > as part of the URL string? (Eg. So that we can link to the form at > VisualEditor's Feedback page) Yes, you can pass URL parameter(s), likehttps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia&component...
> * Severity dropdown: copyedit needed: "An average a bug that [...]" > * Please add a warning that "your email address will be publicly displayed" Added as to-do to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36762 > * Any chance of a "preview" feature? I hate not knowing whether > wikimarkup will work properly or not. (Afaik, interwiki links work as > expected, but no other wikimarkup does.) Very unlikely, unfortunately. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5719 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40896 andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ _______________________________________________ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design-- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
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