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We may have somewhere to send the exhibitionists
by Brianna Laugher 16 Nov '07

16 Nov '07

Of tangential interest: http://bayimg.com/ Apparently "completely uncensored". ("We will not remove any pictures that are just immoral or in any way legal to host under Swedish law." - well, still seems like they'll have a lot of removing to do, to me.) They use a tag system - e.g. http://bayimg.com/tag/background . uploading is ultra quick. cheers Brianna user:pfctdayelise -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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Fwd: [FM Discuss] Wordpress, Inkscape and Scribus content
by Brianna Laugher 13 Nov '07

13 Nov '07

Payment for creating free content Inkscape manuals. Good idea to check out http://flossmanuals.net/ first and see how their existing ones are pitched (ie, much more basic than any existing Wikimedia help files) cheers, Brianna ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Becky Faith <becky(a)tacticaltech.org> Date: 13 Nov 2007 21:58 Subject: [FM Discuss] Wordpress, Inkscape and Scribus content To: discuss(a)lists.flossmanuals.net Hi all, Let me introduce myself. I am Becky Faith from the Tactical Technology Collective. Our projects include the support of Citizen Journalist projects internationally, and to that end we have been a supporter of FLOSS Manuals for some time, mostly working with Adam on the creation of manual material for our NGO-IN-A-BOX series. Recently I spoke with Adam about creating some material for our forthcoming Citizen Journalism Toolkit. Specifically we have identified that there is a need for material on the following softwares (with the chapter headings underneath): WORDPRESS * INSTALLING * BASIC CONFIGURATION * ADDING BLOG CONTENT INKSCAPE * INSTALLING on WINDOWS * WHAT IS AN SVG? * HOW TO CREATE A BASIC SVG GRAPHIC (ICON) * EXPORTING TO OTHER FORMATS SCRIBUS * INSTALLING on WINDOWS * CREATING A BASIC NEWSLETTER * EXPORTING TO DIFFERENT FORMATS This is pretty basic content but it needs to be documented thoroughly, as is the FLOSS Manuals way. The content must be in the format of FLOSS Manuals content and written in the appropriate FM manual. We would like to commission writers to create this content. I believe Adam has written to the list before about finding a way for voluntary contributions and paid contributions to live side-by-side and after discussing it Adam recommended opening this commission up to the list. We can pay 200 euro (including tax) for each chapter. I understand Adam will provide any assistance for helping anyone shape the content if necessary. If you are interested please write to me directly (becky(a)tacticaltech.org) and cc Adam (adam(a)xs4all.nl). Looking forward to hearing from anyone interested! All the best Becky Faith Project Leader http://tacticaltech.org/ Skype; beckyfaith _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss(a)lists.flossmanuals.net http://lists.flossmanuals.net/listinfo.cgi/discuss-flossmanuals.net -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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Tool idea: SVG easy-translate
by Brianna Laugher 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

- user inputs existing SVG diagram/map, and desired target language - tool extracts the text labels and shows them to the user, asking for the equivalent in target language (also shows existing SVG for context) (- tool previews new SVG?) - tool uploads new SVG with appropriate name and description etc, and links to first one Some of the tools mentioned in this blogpost may be useful: http://andy.brisgeek.com/archives/45 (same in Russian: http://www.linuxgraphics.ru/readarticle.php?article_id=33 ) thoughts? cheers, Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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Free (gratuit and libre) satellite/aerial imagery?
by Benjamin Esham 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Hello all, Does anyone know of a source for satellite or aerial imagery released under a license suitable for Commons use? I'd like to create images of a couple of locations in the United States, but I haven't been able to find any suitable sources online. Thanks a lot! -- Benjamin D. Esham E-mail/Jabber: bdesham(a)gmail.com | AIM bdesham128 | PGP D676BB9A "Don't you think about anyone but yourself?!" "Of course I do... I just think about myself first." — Ishka and Quark, /Deep Space Nine/

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Let's move Commons to Antigua!
by David Gerard 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

http://www.igamingbusiness.com/article-detail.php?articleID=15231 http://africa.reuters.com/business/news/usnBAN324906.html - d.

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Professional photographers on Commons: sucess story
by Rama Rama 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Greetings to everybody, On pfctdayelise's suggestion who's never afraid of rejoicing for something, I'd like to request a round of applause for Mikhail Evstafiev. Mikhail Evstafiev is a Russian artist, painter, writer and photographer. He has covered the wars in Bosnia and Chechnya (hint: these are dangerous places and recent periods before Wikipedia was born, two factors which usually make it difficult to gather images), and various political and cultural events. A while ago, Evstafiev was contacted to enquire whether he would agree to licence some of his photographs under Free licences. He did, and since then he has created an account and uploaded quite a few photographs himself. His work can be seen at : http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mikhail_Evstafiev and his account is http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Evstafiev What should we do from there ? my suggestions: 1) On the moral aspect: Rejoice: there are really interesting people on Commons. 2) On the social aspect: Do our outmost so that people like Evstafiev feel at home on Commons and really become part of the family (Seek them on the Internet, ask them to join, explain how it is around here and how contributing to Commons is a symbiosis, provide technical support) 3) On the technical aspect: Watch this sort of images over and over and over again and learn how to compose photos that strong ourselves. Cheers ! -- Rama

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Waiving Canadian moral rights?
by Andy Kaplan-Myrth 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hi, I'm one of the Project Leads for Creative Commons Canada, and since this thread came to my attention I thought I would try to add some context. Padraic Ryan wrote: > Canada, apparently, may be > a unique jurisdiction in that it allows content creators to waive moral > rights. I would agree with geni that other common law jurisdictions are likely similar in that they allow moral rights to be waived to some degree. The situation is not as simple as this suggests, of course. While the Canadian Copyright Act says that moral rights "may be waived in whole or in part", there is disagreement as to whether they can be waived *in general*, or if waivers can only apply for particular uses of a work. For moral rights waivesrs to benefit the open community, they would need to be general waivers for all uses of the work. I should note that there are two categories of moral rights: the right to attribution, and the right to integrity. Since open licences like CC require attribution anyhow, that moral right is not an issue. When we talk about the possibility of waiving moral rights, we're only talking about the right of integrity -- I take it this is what Padraic meant. > Although this does seem to be a complex, unanswered, issue, I think we > should encourage Commons users creating Canadian works to waive these > rights. So here's the deal. In past years, when CC had no policy w.r.t. moral rights, each jurisdiction that had to deal with moral rights did their own thing. In Canada, the version 1.0 licence retained moral rights because we were trying to stay as close to the US CC licence as possible. In versions 2.0 and 2.5 of the Canadian CC licences, we waived the moral right of integrity. This choice was taken for just the reason Padraic is interested in here: some in the community feel that waiving moral rights is required in order for the licences to be libre. For the 3.0 Canada licences, we are following the CC policy for moral rights that resulted from extensive discussion. Given this policy and the issues around whether moral rights can be waived in general, the CC Canada 3.0 licences will keep the moral right of integrity intact. I would note that the Canadian 2.5 licences will still be out there once the 3.0 version is released, and Canadians who want to take their chances with waiving moral rights can still use the old versions. Cheers, Andy -- Andy Kaplan-Myrth, LL.B., M.A. Barrister & Solicitor Joint Project Lead, Creative Commons Canada ------------------------------------------------ email: andy(a)creativecommons.ca web: http://www.creativecommons.ca ------------------------------------------------ email: andy(a)kaplan-myrth.ca web: http://kaplan-myrth.ca ------------------------------------------------ PGP Key ID 0xE9349025 ------------------------------------------------

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Waiving Canadian moral rights?
by Padraic Ryan 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

If you're like me, ever since the Flickr-virgin case and the release of the 3.0 CC licenses, you've been curious about the relationship between free culture and "moral rights". After reading this post [ http://sciencecommons.org/weblog/archives/2007/11/07/cc-oa-moral-rights/], today, I learned something I didn't know before: Canada, apparently, may be a unique jurisdiction in that it allows content creators to waive moral rights. I'm not sure if there has ever been an official Wikimedia (or broader free culture) opinion on moral rights, but they seem antithetical to the cause - it allows the original creator to dictate conditions on reusers. Creative Commons seems to have washed their hands of this, but when it's possible, I don't think we should. At some point, I think we will also have to deal with the question of whether retaining moral rights (when not legally forced to) can be considered creating non-free content. Although this does seem to be a complex, unanswered, issue, I think we should encourage Commons users creating Canadian works to waive these rights. I've created a draft template at [[User:Padraic/Moralrights]], please take a look. Ideally, this kind of waiver could be included in the Canadian CC license templates as well. There is also the international legal question, although I have a legal newbie, it seems to me if moral rights are waived by the creator in the country of a work's creation, then other countries would have no obligation to continue to protect them. Thoughts? Padraic

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Re: [Commons-l] Are models works or arts ?
by Monahon, Peter B. 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Philosophical problem here - any photographer has immediate copyright in even their own latent image. The original model is not being copied. The photographers is creating a new copyright work of their own authorship when the photographer makes a photograph. Photographers do not "take" anything, in this context, they "make" new copyright works of their own authorship at each click of their camera shutter release button! If a photographer were to put down their camera and construct a duplicate model ship, THAT might be copying the original model. Photographing is not copying, in this context. The premise below is wrong for non-flat (two dimensional) original works of art (art = artifact, not capital "A" "Art", meaning "expensive stuff in museums", not what we're talking about here). A photograph produces an essentially flat, two dimensional artifact, and therefore cannot reasonably be considered a "copy" of an other non-flat multi-dimensional original artifact, such as a model ship. Therefore, no photograph can be reasonably considered an infringement on whatever copyright the original non-flat artifact creator / owner may claim. Perhaps photocopying a flat two-dimensional artifact that is subject to another person's copyright is another situation, worthy of exploration in a separate thread. However, that being said, anyone can sue anyone, but that does not make them right. Anyone can also win a lawsuit, but that also does not make them right. Anyone can appeal that judgment, but that does not make them right. My advice to anyone is to do what you think is right, and then if someone sues you, decide how much you want to fight and win to protect your rights, and everyone else's rights. I do not think anyone else can tell you how much fight you have in you for this battle for photography and photographers to be equivalently, appropriately, and accurately respected by all for our free speech rights and copyrights. Let us know what you decide to do with your original photographic artifacts. It is very generous of you to consider contributing your own copyright artifacts to the commons. PS - And never forget the totally unrelated difference between '"making a photograph" and "publishing a photograph". Some people think that if they can successfully sue you for publishing a photograph, then they can also stop you from even making your own photograph in the first place, These are totally different and unrelated areas of law experience - "creating" versus "publishing". We do not have preventive laws, so we are free to make, and publish anything. But, we do have remedial laws, so if someone thinks your creating and publishing actions, after the fact, have deleteriously affected their own life, limb, or property, they may be able to persuade a commonly respected authority (a court?) to instruct you to cease, desist, pay fines and remuneration, and even arrest and imprison you! Anything preemptive, however, is censorship, and interference with everyone's free speech rights and copyright. They have a right to make an original model ship without asking anyone's permission; you have a right to make an original photograph without asking anyone's permission. However, society is complex, and it looks like considerate behavior on your part to ask before taking certain actions. Regardless of thorough and well based advice, any actions you tale may be the basis for someone else to challenge you, no matter how careful you are, whether they (or you) be right or wrong! Welcome to the free world! > -----Original Message----- > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 11:20:03 +0100 > From: "Rama Rama" <ramaneko(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Commons-l] Are models works or arts ? > > Hello, > > a while ago, I was in Paris to photograph the Naval Museum. They have models of ships, which can be either > * ancient arsenal models (at the time a scale model was considered to be part of the documentation of a ship, along with the plans), but also > * modern models of modern ships, and even, more treacherously, > * modern models of ancient ships > > I'd like to have an educated opinion on what constitutes a work of art in this domain. We have quite a few photographs of recent scale models like http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Croiseur-Colbert-p1000458.jpg > or http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LNG_tanker_model.jpg > > Some of the recent models are credited to their authors as if they were sculptures, so there might be a strong case to consider them as original, copyrighted works of art whose photographs cannot be photographed freely. > > I have quite a few such images in my pipeline, I'd be glad to know what to do with them. > > -- Rama

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Attributor: tracking copyvios across the web
by Brianna Laugher 06 Nov '07

06 Nov '07

http://www.attributor.com/ http://tinyurl.com/2ha5fo TechCrunch: Attributor Launches Service to Track Copyright Infringement Across the Web Images & video are in beta. I'm not exactly sure how it's going to work but if they have some free web preview it might be useful (both for checking if something is a copyvio, and seeing where your work from Commons has been used). cheers, Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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