I just tried to watch some presentation videos from Wikimania.
Some had very weak sound, some had no sound in the first minutes,
some only played the first minute and then stopped. I don't think
the Wikimania videos are unique in having such problems. Video is
new to Commons, and the expert contributors are more familiar with
still images.
How can we learn to make better videos? Are there some good
instructions? Perhaps a free instruction video (Wikibooks, but a
video instead of a book) on how to produce good videos is what we
need. In fact, the English Wikibooks has a title on "Video
Production", http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Video_Production but it
doesn't have a clear focus (pun not intended). It starts out with
discussing satellite TV and has long sections on file formats in
different operating systems.
There is a help page on Commons for converting video to the Ogg
Theora format, but that is only the last step in a long chain.
Given that video is new, how can we find and rate videos, nominate
"good/featured videos", and give advice on how to improve quality?
Is the Commons village pump enough for this? Commons has a
separate graphics village pump. Do we also need a separate video
village pump?
Current digital video cameras use hard disks or memory cards,
instead of tape cassettes. Many new models cost less than 300
euro (or dollars), some as little as 120 euro (memory card perhaps
not included). Some have a special "Youtube mode", and I guess
that kind of usage is what drives the price down. What models are
good, and what should one watch out for?
We can find free still photos on Flickr and copy them to Commons.
Is there somewhere we can find free videos and copy them? Yes, at
the Internet Archive. Somewhere else?
--
Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se)
Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
Due to ongoing issues with ffmpeg2theora & upcoming server upgrades, I'm
planning to accelerate our migration from Ogg Theora video output to WebM
VP8: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172445
== When will it change? ==
Sometime in August 2017 as schedules permit, unless surprises pop up in
final testing.
== What will change? ==
Folks using Chrome and Firefox may not notice any difference -- these
browsers have used native WebM playback by default for some time. "Ogg"
will disappear from the list of optionally-playable and downloadable
formats.
In Safari, IE, or Edge where the 'ogv.js' compatibility shim is used, you
will see videos automatically show up in WebM mode instead of Ogg mode.
There is a tradeoff: higher quality & lower bandwidth use, but higher CPU
usage. On very slow computers or at very high resolutions, you may hit CPU
limits at one resolution step lower than with Ogg.
== Why are we making this change? ==
* Eventually we need to go to WebM to support adaptive streaming, so this
was always planned for the long term...
* For best quality we use an unreleased version of libogg and
ffmpeg2theora, but there are still some bugs in there and we routinely get
reports of odd hangs or crashes.
* Ops is updating the servers, and continuing to maintain the custom
packages that are still crashy is getting to be problematic.
* Dropping the Ogg format for video will free up disk space and and CPU
time, and should result in faster turnaround for derived file generation.
== What about Ogg audio? ==
Ogg is still being used for audio, and will not be affected.
-- brion
Hello,
I started a conversation on the Commons Village Pump and totally forgot to
mention it here!
I've put together a proposal on how we might approach enabling MP3
uploads. I would greatly appreciate those who have not participated in the
conversation to join, and thank those who have! :)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#A_discussion_about_…
Yours,
Chris Koerner
Community Liaison
Wikimedia Foundation
Hello,
The Multimedia team at the Wikimedia Foundation is working to enable
Commons support for 3D objects in the .STL file format.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790
While the technical work is well underway the Legal team at the foundation
recently shared some points addressing 3D files from a legal perspective.
Particularly concerns around patented objects and objects that are weapons.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/3D_files_and_3D_printing
I encourage Commonists interested in discussing the details of this feature
to participate in a discussion in preparation for the feature. I have
shared this on the Commons Village Pump if you would like to discuss
further.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Wikilegal_post_on_3…
Yours,
Chris Koerner
Community Liaison
Wikimedia Foundation
I looked on Commons but cant find the answer :(
what apps are recommended for uploading images from mobile phones for both
Android and Apple
Thanks
Gn.
Forwarding to the Commons mailing list.
Pine
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I light of discussion elsewhere I think we should revisit the
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope/Precautionary_prin…
The policy states "where there is *significant* doubt about the freedom of
a particular file, it should be deleted" yet when it comes to nominating a
file "it may be" is sufficient to delete an image to "I have a reason to
believe its not free because....." there should more onus on the nominator
at the very least show that there is a reason for doubt
We already have this principle with URAA nominated images "Files nominated
for deletion due to the URAA should be evaluated carefully, as should be
their copyright status under US and local laws. *A mere **allegation** that
the URAA applies to a file cannot be the sole reason for deletion*. If the
end result of copyright evaluation is that there is significant doubt about
the freedom of a file under US or local law, the file must be deleted in
line with the precautionary principle
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Project_scope…>
."
I think a change from the current
- Also, arguments that amount to "we can get away with it", such as the
following, are against Commons' aims:
to
- A mere allegation that the precautionary principle applies is
insufficient, likewise arguments that amount to "we can get away with
it", such as the following, are against Commons' aims:
--
Gnangarra