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Re: [Commons-l] Photos of statues not considered derivatives in the US? (Geoffrey Plourde)
by J JIH 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

Neither am I your lawyer, but your points are very interesting and potentially encouraging. Once the Wikimedia Foundation is able to accept your points, recent pictures of very old coins may also become acceptable on Commons, similar to mere copies of very old 2-dimensional works. Jusjih > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:11:39 -0800 (PST) > From: Geoffrey Plourde <geo.plrd(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Photos of statues not considered derivatives > in the US? > To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <131842.94385.qm(a)web37405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > IANAL, but I would say it's solid as it has been cited in Latimer v. Roaring Toyz, Inc., 2008 WL 697346 (M.D. Fl.) > > > > ________________________________ > From: Howard Cheng <howard(a)howcheng.com> > To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List <commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:42:29 PM > Subject: [Commons-l] Photos of statues not considered derivatives in the US? > > According to http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2008/02/photographs-and-derivative-works.h…, > Judge William H. Pauley III of the Southern District of New York ruled > in SHL Imaging, Inc. v. Artisan House, Inc., 117 F. Supp. 2d 301 (S.D. > N.Y. 2000) that photographs of statues/sculptures are not considered > derivative works, noting: "A photograph of Jeff Koons's 'Puppy' > sculpture in Manhattan's Rockefeller Center merely depicts that > sculpture; it does not recast, transform, or adapt Koons's sculptural > authorship. In short, the authorship of the photographic work is > entirely different and separate from the authorship of the sculpture." > > Note that this is the same court that issued the Bridgeman v. Corel > ruling. If this hasn't been overturned at any point, and the blog post > linked above doesn't indicate that it has, then we should start > allowing photos of statues in the US, and perhaps anywhere even where > there is no FOP for statues (similar to what we did for PD-Art). > > Thoughts? > > -h

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Photos of statues not considered derivatives in the US?
by Howard Cheng 20 Nov '08

20 Nov '08

According to http://williampatry.blogspot.com/2008/02/photographs-and-derivative-works.h…, Judge William H. Pauley III of the Southern District of New York ruled in SHL Imaging, Inc. v. Artisan House, Inc., 117 F. Supp. 2d 301 (S.D. N.Y. 2000) that photographs of statues/sculptures are not considered derivative works, noting: "A photograph of Jeff Koons's 'Puppy' sculpture in Manhattan's Rockefeller Center merely depicts that sculpture; it does not recast, transform, or adapt Koons's sculptural authorship. In short, the authorship of the photographic work is entirely different and separate from the authorship of the sculpture." Note that this is the same court that issued the Bridgeman v. Corel ruling. If this hasn't been overturned at any point, and the blog post linked above doesn't indicate that it has, then we should start allowing photos of statues in the US, and perhaps anywhere even where there is no FOP for statues (similar to what we did for PD-Art). Thoughts? -h

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LIFE photo archive hosted by Google
by Brianna Laugher 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

<http://images.google.com/hosted/life> There is no directly copyright related metadata, but there is a "Date taken:" field. 1923 is the magic number, is that right? cheers Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/

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Video licenced CC
by Douglas Pollard 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

I have been downloading some video that is made from old silent film movies. They are licenced cc no derivatives. Some are remixed. How is this possible? I am thinking these old films were in the public domain or the remixer bought the right to publish them. How do these clips get published under CC. How does a remixer get the right to not allow remixing or derivatives? If he did a voice over it makes sense that he has the right to publish his added sound but how the video? If you buy publishing rights can you then publish under a CC licence. I am trying to figure out what I can use in making a video and how it is that I can't use some things and can others. My video will be maybe 70% my own work but I would like to use CC music.some pictures, video and sounds, then publish in creative commons. Doug

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Re: [Commons-l] Open Document Format
by Platonides 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Mohamed Magdy wrote: > I just uploaded a hybrid pdf and it is working properly. you could use that > until ODFs are allowed. > > http://www.oooninja.com/2008/06/pdf-import-hybrid-odf-pdfs-extension-30.html You're taking advantage of a hole on our file type detection system: We aren't checking for files embedded into PDF streams. I had set up a check, but forgot to properly enable it :/ It's now fixed, so Wiki-Bot will now warn about embedded ZIP based files. Using it for hybrid pdf-odf is useful, but has also been used for abuse in the past.

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I think I am beginning to understand the anti-English bent of some wikipedians
by Jim 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Image:Lecture_a… Image:Lecture_at_Output.jpg<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:Lecture_at_Output.jpg&…> Reuploaded after deletion. Without blanking slide it's Commons:Derivative works <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Derivative_works>. EugeneZelenko <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:EugeneZelenko> (talk<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:EugeneZelenko>) 14:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC) <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Symbol_keep_vote.svg> *Keep* Yuri Landman's own work. /Pieter Kuiper<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pieter_Kuiper>( talk <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pieter_Kuiper>) 15:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC) - <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Time2wait.svg> *On hold* Wrote an email for permission<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Forrester&oldid=15…> *[[* Forrester <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Forrester> *]]*16:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC) Waiting for permission <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS>. *— Mike<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mike.lifeguard> .lifeguard <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike.lifeguard>* | @en.wb <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User_talk:Mike.lifeguard> 16:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC) - <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Symbol_keep_vote.svg> *Keep* I don't understand why it need a permission if the photo + the illsutration on screen is the work of the uploader and if this person gives us the right to use it. I don't get it! --TwoWings<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:TwoWings>* to talk or not to talk...<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TwoWings>12:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC) Because it's available on the internet. *[[* Forrester<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Forrester> *]]* 20:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC) No it's not. I've the h-res and there is no place on the internet which shows the h-res, so this is wrong. Yuri Landman Hypercustom<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yuri_Landman_Hypercusto…>( talk <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yuri_Landman_Hypercustom>) 10:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC) So what? It doesn't matter if it's available eslewhere, that's not a reason of deletion! --TwoWings<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:TwoWings>* to talk or not to talk...<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TwoWings>06:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC) It definitely is since third parties rights could be infringed upon. *[[* Forrester <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Forrester> *]]* 16:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC) - <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Symbol_keep_vote.svg> *Keep*landman's own work afaik indeed, used in article. oscar <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Oscar> 09:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC) "afaik"? How far do you know? Is it enough to be sure for us? *[[* Forrester <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Forrester> *]]* 23:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC) I send Forrester as well as commons a reply for permission and received a reply in which wikipedia commons confirmed all is okay currently, So this request for deletion can be closed savely. Please ask commons for a confirmation or otherwise mail me again on the email address mentioned on my website www.hypercustom.com to repermit me again. Oscar knows all about me and my work from the Dutch wikipedia, so you can pretty well trust his opinion as well as mine. Yuri Landman Hypercustom<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yuri_Landman_Hypercusto…>( talk <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yuri_Landman_Hypercustom>) 20:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC) No, the OTRS agent that has dealt with your email asked you to choose a specific free license (2008100310026237). —Pill<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pill>( talk <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Pill>) 18:17, 20 October 2008 (UTC) This is wrong. I did reply and filled in a license spec. You didn't contact me about anything after I send the mail. You confirmed you've received it and it must be good now, otherwise ask me on www.hypercustom.com. Help, suggest and I'll confirm all needed licenses. Keep in mind I've to deal with English, while I'm Dutch, so it's easy for you to corner me with difficult words. Yuri Landman Hypercustom<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yuri_Landman_Hypercusto…>( talk <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yuri_Landman_Hypercustom>) 10:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC) Yuri, please send them a specific free license because saying "choose one free, I don't care" is not that safe. *[[ * Forrester <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Forrester> *]]* 19:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC) It is 100% safe. It means: You are allowed to use it in every way, I don't care which license you propose and I'll agree on every needed one. I'm Dutch not native English. Can you understand this is limiting my language and explanations? Yuri Landman Hypercustom<http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Yuri_Landman_Hypercusto…>( talk <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yuri_Landman_Hypercustom>) 10:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC) -- Jim (trodel(a)gmail.com) "Our love may not always be reciprocated, or even appreciated, but love is never wasted" - Neal A Maxwell-

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GFDL 1.3
by Eugene Zelenko 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

Hi! GFDL 1.3 was released today (http://www.fsf.org/news/fdl-1.3-pr.html). Any thought which version should be default, multiple versions, etc? Eugene.

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uploads on commons will be temporarily disabled
by River Tarnell 02 Nov '08

02 Nov '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hello, during the migration to a new fileserver for images on commons, uploads to commons will be disabled at some point during the next couple of days (possibly today). this should take less than an hour. please do not panic. - river. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFJDLaiIXd7fCuc5vIRAghUAKCTh/deRtHozXS5kHFCfTJl8Xe9zACeJQ7T pvmpW72Es2UJIcGR0OdxAtc= =bpnR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Do we need Mayflower?
by Eugene Zelenko 01 Nov '08

01 Nov '08

Hi! Looks like topic on Village pump didn't get too much attention. Please express your opinions on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Mayflower. Eugene.

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Fwd: [Wikitech-l] new extension for embedded music scores
by David Gerard 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

A new toy written by River. Not enabled on Wikimedia as yet. cc Raul - you're the music nerd. How limited is ABC? Is there a Lilypond->ABC converter? - d. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: River Tarnell <river(a)loreley.flyingparchment.org.uk> Date: 2008/10/28 Subject: [Wikitech-l] new extension for embedded music scores To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hello, i have written a new extension to embed music scores in MediaWiki pages: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Extension:ABC unlike the Lilypond extension, this uses a simple input language (ABC) that is much easier to validate for security. ABC is mostly used to transcribe Irish trad and other simple tunes, but it recently gained support for more advanced features, e.g. multiple staves and lyrics. this is supported in the extension using the 'abcm2ps' tool. unlike the existing ABC extension (AbcMusic), it doesn't support opening arbitrary files as ABC input (which is a potential security issue), and has several additional features: - - The original ABC can be downloaded easily - - The score can be downloaded as PDF, PostScript, MIDI or Ogg Vorbis - - A media player can be embedded in the page to play the media file i believe the ABC format is suitable for transcribing the majority of scores currently on Wikimedia projects. although it can't handle all of them, it is better than the current situation. plus, as ABC is simple, and existing ABC scores are easily available, it's easier for novice users to contribute. i would be interested to hear peoples' thoughts on enabling this extension on Wikimedia. - river. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFJBwL+IXd7fCuc5vIRAqG6AJ9RxKTGjJ7ywdZoesrTJWrMPtBYrACgjgDX lIY552ilDFaVG1mLzqW1F/Y= =7Tda -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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