No new wikidata feature on commons whiteout community consensus please. This stuff seems
to be very controversial.
(#shellpolicy, #community-consensus-needed)
From: gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 21:38:35 +0200
To: commons-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [Wikidata] Trends in links from Wikidata items to Commons
Hoi,
Killing categories on Commons is a bit premature. Until the time we start working in
earnest on Commons, it is probably not the categories we will do first. Easiest and more
obvious are data that is of relevance and is kept in templates like the
"Creator" or the "Institution" template. As it is, a majority of them
are already linked to Wikidata. Making a complete change for having this data in Wikidata
means that such information is available in all languages. Another aspect is in data like
licenses and similar info. That could be done easy as well because it is already largely
structured.
Categories on Commons are "peculiar". It will be interesting what the
discussions will be once it will be discussed in earnest.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 13 September 2015 at 20:39, Daniel Schwen <lists(a)schwen.de> wrote:
Hi all,
before we write off the category system (as
living-in-the-future-Gerard seems to do ;-) we should probably rather
think about killing galleries. All of them. Completely. Galleries
require a considerable maintenance overhead, and I would argue that
that work is better spent on categorizing our content. We could
replace galleries by allowing select images to retain high level
categories (for example through a template so the don't accidentally
get diffused down the tree). The captions in galleries are just an
i18n nightmare and a data duplication of the description texts.
This does not entirely solve the problem of still having the Creator
namespace, but if were up to me, we'd _not_ interwikilink there, but
rather to the "Works by .." category, because that is what I think
people expect to find on commons: Images
Cheers,
Daniel
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net> wrote:
> On 28 Aug 2015, at 18:40, Reguyla
<reguyla(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is one reason I create the pahbricator
request for Commons to have its own Site box rather than fall under "Other
wiki's". That would allow us to link an item to its corresponding Gallery,
Category, Creator or whatever. Right now we can only like to Commons category via the
Other Wiki's and although we can link Galleries, Creator and the like as data items,
they are not "linked" as site links.
This would be very useful - I think this would be a
good way forward that would avoid the whole 'page vs. category' debate. The
Phabricator ticket is at:
Thanks,
Mike
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