On 13 Sep 2015, at 19:39, Daniel Schwen
<lists(a)schwen.de> wrote:
Hi all,
before we write off the category system (as
living-in-the-future-Gerard seems to do ;-) we should probably rather
think about killing galleries. All of them. Completely. Galleries
require a considerable maintenance overhead, and I would argue that
that work is better spent on categorizing our content. We could
replace galleries by allowing select images to retain high level
categories (for example through a template so the don't accidentally
get diffused down the tree). The captions in galleries are just an
i18n nightmare and a data duplication of the description texts.
This does not entirely solve the problem of still having the Creator
namespace, but if were up to me, we'd _not_ interwikilink there, but
rather to the "Works by .." category, because that is what I think
people expect to find on commons: Images
Cheers,
Daniel
+1, I completely agree with this.
On 14 Sep 2015, at 15:30, Tuszynski, Jarek W.
<JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI(a)leidos.com> wrote:
I agree that most of the galleries on Commons are semi useless and out of date, and I can
not think of a situation when I would prefer to land at a Gallery page rather than
Category page when following a interwiki link. But what do you suggest when proposing to
completely kill all the galleries? Delete them all?
Jarek T.
User:Jarekt
I also agree with this. In most of the cases where I've ended up on a gallery page, it
hasn't been updated since 2009, and it's not really worth maintaining - in most
cases I tend to merge these into the category page on sight. Simply merging all gallery
pages into the corresponding category descriptions (where they can then be trimmed down as
appropriate) would be a good way forward.
There are some cases where this isn't the case, e.g. on high-profile topics where the
galleries are relatively up-to-date and provide useful image links, but these seem to be
fairly rare, and they often link to sub-par images rather than the best ones we have
available on Commons.
On 14 Sep 2015, at 16:41, YiFei
<zhuyifei1999(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Galleries still make it much easier to navigate and sort images to a newbie, and the
categorization system may be too complex for them.
I can't say I've seen that happen - in most cases that I've seen, the category
system makes more sense to the new editors.
Thanks,
Mike