--- On Mon, 16/5/11, Chris McKenna cmckenna@sucs.org wrote:
From: Chris McKenna cmckenna@sucs.org Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons To: "Wikimedia Commons Discussion List" commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Monday, 16 May, 2011, 22:21 On Mon, 16 May 2011, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
It seems to me you are obsessed with the breasts in
that image. If someone argues
against an image with breasts, it is censorship.
If someone argues against hosting some Wikimedian's
technically semi-competent,
but undistinguished Thomas Kinkade pastiche in
Commons, would you also shout
censorship? Probably not, I guess, because the
censorship argument requires
that there be breasts in the image.
Censorship does not require there be breasts or "fuck" or anything else. It's just the only arguments I've seen about why this image should not be on the main page are that it contains breasts. If you want to complain that it should not be on the main page because it's a poor pastiche then that's a very different issue that is not censorship related, but not one that I've seen made and so not one I've made any comments about.
You missed a good part of the debate then:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005964.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005973.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006036.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005989.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/005981.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006022.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006023.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006032.html http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/006038.html
Kind of proves my point ... the breasts overshadowed everything. ;)
Compare this one from the same artist:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anime_Girl.svg
Far less ambitious, totally within his artistic means, and a much better illustration of Manga drawing style. That's a FP in that area; the other one isn't.
Andreas