Re: [Winedale-l] Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 15

From: winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Winedale-l Digest, Vol 8, Issue 15 To: winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:20:23 +0000 Send Winedale-l mailing list submissions to winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to winedale-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at winedale-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Winedale-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Virtual Winedale (Amy Oberst) 2. (no subject) (Mike Godwin) 3. Re: (no subject) (rcsouth0101) 4. Re: Films that remind you of Winedale? (Daniel Sacks) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 23:06:03 +0000 From: "Amy Oberst" &lt;acoberst(a)yahoo.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Virtual Winedale To: "David Ziegler" &lt;dzieglersf(a)hotmail.com&gt;om>, "Shakespeare At Winedale 1970-2000 alums" &lt;winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Message-ID: &lt;784019254-1282345563-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-457767032-(a)bda368.bisx.prod.on.blackberry&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" For the record, I've had an earworm of "I Only Kill Cats and Dogs" all week. Thank you, Jon Watson. You evidently have an awesome ability to write catchy songs. Use your powers for good. :) Jon, you ought to post an MP3 of the song so the people who didn't attend the reunion can hear it too. Amy O. Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? -----Original Message----- From: "David Ziegler" &lt;dzieglersf(a)hotmail.com&gt; Sender: winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:04:18 To: &lt;Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Virtual Winedale _______________________________________________ Winedale-l mailing list Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:11:35 -0700 From: Mike Godwin &lt;mnemonic(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: [Winedale-l] (no subject) To: &quot;Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&quot; &lt;Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Message-ID: &lt;AANLkTimUFX2Ty8hkMwigaS8gDEi0cq9gUJj+VMfMmdOx(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:22:21 -0500 From: "rcsouth0101" &lt;rcsouth0101(a)att.net&gt; Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] (no subject) To: &lt;mnemonic(a)gmail.com&gt;om>, &lt;Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Message-ID: <6EF1897DDF7C4A278934A9ACE3207AAA@optiplex9f59ae> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original There is a time for many words, and there is also a time for sleep. Homer, The Odyssey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Godwin" &lt;mnemonic(a)gmail.com&gt; To: &lt;Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 5:11 AM Subject: [Winedale-l] (no subject) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:31:05 -0500 From: Daniel Sacks &lt;danielmsacks(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [Winedale-l] Films that remind you of Winedale? To: Clay Stromberger &lt;cstromberger(a)mail.utexas.edu&gt; Cc: alums &lt;winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Message-ID: <4658466300696280827@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Maybe the unofficial Winedale documentary called A Muse of Fire? Does that count? It documents the summer of 2000 and Doc's final year as director. Clayton, you've already seen it, anyone in Austin interested in a screening? Daniel M Sacks Sent from my phone; please forgive abbrevs, misspelings, poor punctuation etc On Aug 19, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Clay Stromberger &lt;cstromberger(a)mail.utexas.edu&gt; wrote: Hi all -- Enjoying the poetry exchange. In the meantime I find myself wondering if folks have favorite films that remind them of Winedale in some way. (And let's save some time and just say up front that "Fitzcarraldo" is not eligible, okay...?!) The first one that comes to mind for me is "A Month in the Country," made in 1987 with Colin Firth, a young Kenneth Branagh and a heartbreakingly lovely Natasha Richardson. Unfortunately it has fallen into neglect and I hear on Wikipedia that the one remaining print is finally being restored for a DVD release. I won't attempt to describe the film right here, but if you get a chance to land a copy on VHS, or it if pops up on a cable channel (unlikely), check it out and see if the ending doesn't hit you with that leaving-Winedale feeling right in the gut. cs On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Ernie S. wrote: On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Thomas, Eric wrote: Thanks Katey. There are two poems that remind me of Winedale. Little Gidding is one, here is the other. Eric PS ? anyone still have their Kenneth Patchen poem memorized? Tom O'Bedlam's Song That into rags would rend ye, All the saints that stand by the naked man In the Book of Moons defend ye. That of your five sound senses You never be forsaken Nor wander from yourselves with Tom Abroad to beg your bacon. Chorus: While I do sing: "Any food, any feeding, Feeding, drink or clothing. Come dame or maid, be not afraid. Poor Tom will injure no one. With a thought I took for maudlin And a cruise of cockle pottage, With a thing thus tall, Sky bless you all, I fell into this dotage. I slept not since the Conquest, Till then I scarcely waken, Till the roguish boy of love Me found and stripped me naked. The moon's my constant mistress And the lonely owl my marrow, The flaming drake and nightcrow make Me music to my sorrow. I know more than Apollo, For oft when he lies sleeping I see the stars at mortal wars And the wounded welkin weeping. The moon embrace her shepherd And the Queen of Love her warrior, While the first doth horn the star of morn, And the next the heavenly farrier. The gypsies Snap and Pedro Are none of Tom's companions The punk I scorn and the cutpurse sworn And the raging boy's bravado. *[something missing here]* With a Host of Furious Fancies Whereof I am commander, With a burning spear and a horse of air, To the wilderness I wander. By a knight of ghosts and shadows, I summoned am to tourney. Ten leagues beyond the wide world's end, Methinks it is no journey. On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Thomas, Eric wrote: Thanks Katey. There are two poems that remind me of Winedale. Little Gidding is one, here is the other. Eric PS ? anyone still have their Kenneth Patchen poem memorized? To Be of Use, Marge Piercy The people I love the best Jump into work head first Without dallying in the shallows And swim of with sure strokes Almost out of sight. They seem to become natives of that element, The black sleek heads of seals Bouncing like half-submerged balls. I love people who harness themselves, An ox to a heavy cart, Who pull like water buffalo, with Massive patience, Who strain in the mud and the Muck to move things forward, Who do what has to be done, Again and again. I want to be with people who submerge In the task, who go into the Fields to harvest And work in a row and pass The bags along, Who are not parlor generals And field deserters But move in a common rhythm When the food must come in Or the fire put out. The work of the world is Common as mud. Botched, it smears the hands, Crumbles to dust. But the thing worth doing well done Has a shape that satisfies, Clean and evident. Greek amphoras for wine or oil, Hopi vases that held corn, are Put in museums But you know they were made To be used. The pitcher cries for water to carry And a person for work that is real. *From:* winedale-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [ mailto:winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org<winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org><winedale-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>] *On Behalf Of *katey gilligan *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:52 AM *To:* alums *Subject:* [Winedale-l] Poetry Doc Read to Us in 1994, I Remember Now, Here's for You *LITTLE GIDDING** *(No. 4 of 'Four Quartets') *T.S. Eliot* *V* What we call the beginning is often the end And to make an end is to make a beginning. The end is where we start from. And every phrase And sentence that is right (where every word is at home, Taking its place to support the others, The word neither diffident nor ostentatious, An easy commerce of the old and the new, The common word exact without vulgarity, The formal word precise but not pedantic, The complete consort dancing together) Every phrase and every sentence is an end and a beginning, Every poem an epitaph. And any action Is a step to the block, to the fire, down the sea's throat Or to an illegible stone: and that is where we start. We die with the dying: See, they depart, and we go with them. We are born with the dead: See, they return, and bring us with them. The moment of the rose and the moment of the yew-tree Are of equal duration. A people without history Is not redeemed from time, for history is a pattern Of timeless moments. So, while the light fails On a winter's afternoon, in a secluded chapel History is now and England. With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this Calling We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. Through the unknown, unremembered gate When the last of earth left to discover Is that which was the beginning; At the source of the longest river The voice of the hidden waterfall And the children in the apple-tree Not known, because not looked for But heard, half-heard, in the stillness Between two waves of the sea. Quick now, here, now, always? A condition of complete simplicity (Costing not less than everything) And all shall be well and All manner of thing shall be well When the tongues of flame are in-folded Into the crowned knot of fire And the fire and the rose are one. -- Katey Gilligan Masters in Science Technology Commercialization Red McCombs School of Business The University of Texas at Austin _______________________________________________ Winedale-l mailing list Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l _______________________________________________ Winedale-l mailing list Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l Clayton Stromberger Outreach Coordinator, UT Shakespeare at Winedale College of Liberal Arts, University of Texas at Austin www.shakespeare-winedale.org cell: 512-228-1055, cell #2 (backup): 512-363-6864 UT Sh. at W. office: 512-471-4726 _______________________________________________ Winedale-l mailing list Winedale-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/winedale-l