All,
I'd like to congratulate the entire Wikinews community for passing another threshold as today the English edition of Wikinews created our 10,000th article. While the total article count is not nearly as important to a news site which depends on the flow of articles more than the total volume of content, this is still a significant symbolic figure and one that we are very proud of.
With about 10 articles published per day on average, about 17,000 users, almost 20 average edits per article, and somewhat under three years under our belt, we've managed to build a wealth of news content available to the world under a free license. We focus on synthesizing free-content versions of news that is reported elsewhere, as well as using our community to create original reporting not available anywhere else.
Throughout the years we've remained somewhat different from a lot of other similar projects. Within the Wikimedia family we are the only project that depends on continued story flow rather than just being able to be built up over time. We are also the only site with an explicit goal and mandate to publish original reporting and research, yet still staying subject to the NPOV and other core Wikimedia values. We also try to connect ourselves with the outside world: we allow trusted members to become "accredited reporters", we invite collaboration with sites that want to mirror or use our content, and even invite folks to call in on our telephone hotline.
Outside of Wikimedia, we are one of the larger citizen journalism websites in terms of visits and users. Unlike most sites, we do not allow editorial content and stick to newswire-style reporting; unlike almost all sites, all content is licensed for unrestricted use subject only to attribution. Unlike almost all other citizen journalism sites, we do not allow ownership or authorship of articles: they are owned by the wiki, and no single person is on the by-line of our articles. All said, these modes of operation are unique within the citizen journalism space and create both opportunities and challenges as we continue to grow.
Wikinews still has a lot to learn and a lot to do. We are still struggling to grow our story flow; we are not as widely read or respected as we think we should be; we have trouble with using MediaWiki at times since the platform wasn't really developed for a news site. We have challenges in integrating into the larger framework of citizen journalism, in part since we do not allow the opinionated, POV content that drives a good subset of other citizen news efforts. We are still not getting the level of crossover from Wikipedia that we probably should be getting.
Yet we are very hopeful and enthusiastic about our future. We are getting some technical changes in place to make our site a lot more lively, interactive, and useful. We are looking forward to Single User Login helping increase Wikipedia-to-Wikinews crossover. We are reaching out to other sites that share our mission and are trying to establish collaborative efforts to help us grow and help Wikimedia fulfill its mission.
So please join me in congratulating the Wikinews community, and indeed the entire Wikimedia community, for helping us reach this milestone. It may seem symbolic, but for us Wikinewsies it is definitely worth a celebration.
-ilya haykinson
I've said this several times before on IRC, but I want to share it with the community on the mailing list. It has been a distinct pleasure, and my personal honor working with you ladies and gentlemen over the course of the past year. I look forward to another 10,000 articles and another great year on the English Wikinews.
-- Thunderhead http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead
_______________________________________________ DISCLAIMER: I hold no official position in the Wikimedia Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.
---- Ilya Haykinson haykinson@gmail.com wrote:
All,
I'd like to congratulate the entire Wikinews community for passing another threshold as today the English edition of Wikinews created our 10,000th article. While the total article count is not nearly as important to a news site which depends on the flow of articles more than the total volume of content, this is still a significant symbolic figure and one that we are very proud of.
With about 10 articles published per day on average, about 17,000 users, almost 20 average edits per article, and somewhat under three years under our belt, we've managed to build a wealth of news content available to the world under a free license. We focus on synthesizing free-content versions of news that is reported elsewhere, as well as using our community to create original reporting not available anywhere else.
Throughout the years we've remained somewhat different from a lot of other similar projects. Within the Wikimedia family we are the only project that depends on continued story flow rather than just being able to be built up over time. We are also the only site with an explicit goal and mandate to publish original reporting and research, yet still staying subject to the NPOV and other core Wikimedia values. We also try to connect ourselves with the outside world: we allow trusted members to become "accredited reporters", we invite collaboration with sites that want to mirror or use our content, and even invite folks to call in on our telephone hotline.
Outside of Wikimedia, we are one of the larger citizen journalism websites in terms of visits and users. Unlike most sites, we do not allow editorial content and stick to newswire-style reporting; unlike almost all sites, all content is licensed for unrestricted use subject only to attribution. Unlike almost all other citizen journalism sites, we do not allow ownership or authorship of articles: they are owned by the wiki, and no single person is on the by-line of our articles. All said, these modes of operation are unique within the citizen journalism space and create both opportunities and challenges as we continue to grow.
Wikinews still has a lot to learn and a lot to do. We are still struggling to grow our story flow; we are not as widely read or respected as we think we should be; we have trouble with using MediaWiki at times since the platform wasn't really developed for a news site. We have challenges in integrating into the larger framework of citizen journalism, in part since we do not allow the opinionated, POV content that drives a good subset of other citizen news efforts. We are still not getting the level of crossover from Wikipedia that we probably should be getting.
Yet we are very hopeful and enthusiastic about our future. We are getting some technical changes in place to make our site a lot more lively, interactive, and useful. We are looking forward to Single User Login helping increase Wikipedia-to-Wikinews crossover. We are reaching out to other sites that share our mission and are trying to establish collaborative efforts to help us grow and help Wikimedia fulfill its mission.
So please join me in congratulating the Wikinews community, and indeed the entire Wikimedia community, for helping us reach this milestone. It may seem symbolic, but for us Wikinewsies it is definitely worth a celebration.
-ilya haykinson
Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
We're not there yet.
At my last check we have 10,004 articles in main namespace - of which 13 are still in development. Wikipedia doesn't have that distinction so we've got a little more work to establish which is *the* 10,000th published article.
Brian.
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thunderhead Sent: 06 September 2007 08:41 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] 10,000 articles on the English Wikinews
I've said this several times before on IRC, but I want to share it with the community on the mailing list. It has been a distinct pleasure, and my personal honor working with you ladies and gentlemen over the course of the past year. I look forward to another 10,000 articles and another great year on the English Wikinews.
-- Thunderhead http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thunderhead
_______________________________________________ DISCLAIMER: I hold no official position in the Wikimedia Foundation. This message expresses the views of a single Wikimedia user and not necessarily the community at large.
---- Ilya Haykinson haykinson@gmail.com wrote:
All,
I'd like to congratulate the entire Wikinews community for passing another threshold as today the English edition of Wikinews created our 10,000th article. While the total article count is not nearly as important to a news site which depends on the flow of articles more than the total volume of content, this is still a significant symbolic figure and one that we are very proud of.
With about 10 articles published per day on average, about 17,000 users, almost 20 average edits per article, and somewhat under three years under our belt, we've managed to build a wealth of news content available to the world under a free license. We focus on synthesizing free-content versions of news that is reported elsewhere, as well as using our community to create original reporting not available anywhere else.
Throughout the years we've remained somewhat different from a lot of other similar projects. Within the Wikimedia family we are the only project that depends on continued story flow rather than just being able to be built up over time. We are also the only site with an explicit goal and mandate to publish original reporting and research, yet still staying subject to the NPOV and other core Wikimedia values. We also try to connect ourselves with the outside world: we allow trusted members to become "accredited reporters", we invite collaboration with sites that want to mirror or use our content, and even invite folks to call in on our telephone hotline.
Outside of Wikimedia, we are one of the larger citizen journalism websites in terms of visits and users. Unlike most sites, we do not allow editorial content and stick to newswire-style reporting; unlike almost all sites, all content is licensed for unrestricted use subject only to attribution. Unlike almost all other citizen journalism sites, we do not allow ownership or authorship of articles: they are owned by the wiki, and no single person is on the by-line of our articles. All said, these modes of operation are unique within the citizen journalism space and create both opportunities and challenges as we continue to grow.
Wikinews still has a lot to learn and a lot to do. We are still struggling to grow our story flow; we are not as widely read or respected as we think we should be; we have trouble with using MediaWiki at times since the platform wasn't really developed for a news site. We have challenges in integrating into the larger framework of citizen journalism, in part since we do not allow the opinionated, POV content that drives a good subset of other citizen news efforts. We are still not getting the level of crossover from Wikipedia that we probably should be getting.
Yet we are very hopeful and enthusiastic about our future. We are getting some technical changes in place to make our site a lot more lively, interactive, and useful. We are looking forward to Single User Login helping increase Wikipedia-to-Wikinews crossover. We are reaching out to other sites that share our mission and are trying to establish collaborative efforts to help us grow and help Wikimedia fulfill its mission.
So please join me in congratulating the Wikinews community, and indeed the entire Wikimedia community, for helping us reach this milestone. It may seem symbolic, but for us Wikinewsies it is definitely worth a celebration.
-ilya haykinson
Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l@lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l
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Le 6 sept. 07 à 12:42, Brian McNeil a écrit :
We're not there yet.
At my last check we have 10,004 articles in main namespace - of which 13 are still in development. Wikipedia doesn't have that distinction so we've got a little more work to establish which is *the* 10,000th published article.
(^v^)
you cut all fun from life my friend!
let us have a chance to cheer and dance, it's not so often on Wikinews !
May be it's time to have some thoughts about a Wikinews Convention in order to share some beer (wine or carote juice, don't mind) and ideas about the futur of Wikinews or more openly, about the role "citizen rapporteur" .
and have fun !
jacques divol
:On Behalf Of divol
Le 6 sept. 07 à 12:42, Brian McNeil a écrit :
We're not there yet.
At my last check we have 10,004 articles in main namespace - of which 13 are still in development. Wikipedia doesn't have that distinction so we've got a little more work to establish which is *the* 10,000th published article.
(^v^)
you cut all fun from life my friend!
let us have a chance to cheer and dance, it's not so often on Wikinews !
May be it's time to have some thoughts about a Wikinews Convention in order to share some beer (wine or carote juice, don't mind) and ideas about the futur of Wikinews or more openly, about the role "citizen rapporteur" .
and have fun !
The "chance to cheer" is today, we just need nine articles and we can manage that. We can go for a big story as 10K published, or the craziest Wackynews, it is up to us - the contributors - how we mark the milestone.
Just don't make it anything to do with us having 10K articles.
Brian.
oh... I'm sure I can find some WackyNews somewhere.
But it can't be about us having 10K articles, understandable (maybe that could be our 10K1 article)
Brian McNeil wrote:
:On Behalf Of divol
Le 6 sept. 07 à 12:42, Brian McNeil a écrit :
We're not there yet.
At my last check we have 10,004 articles in main namespace - of which 13 are still in development. Wikipedia doesn't have that distinction so we've got a little more work to establish which is *the* 10,000th published article.
(^v^)
you cut all fun from life my friend!
let us have a chance to cheer and dance, it's not so often on Wikinews !
May be it's time to have some thoughts about a Wikinews Convention in order to share some beer (wine or carote juice, don't mind) and ideas about the futur of Wikinews or more openly, about the role "citizen rapporteur" .
and have fun !
The "chance to cheer" is today, we just need nine articles and we can manage that. We can go for a big story as 10K published, or the craziest Wackynews, it is up to us - the contributors - how we mark the milestone.
Just don't make it anything to do with us having 10K articles.
Brian.
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I agree with Brian actually now that its mentioned. Although I am not against an article on our 10,000th, it does seem "cheesey." We do need a big story though :)
DragonFire1024
Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote: :On Behalf Of divol
Le 6 sept. 07 à 12:42, Brian McNeil a écrit :
We're not there yet.
At my last check we have 10,004 articles in main namespace - of which 13 are still in development. Wikipedia doesn't have that distinction so we've got a little more work to establish which is *the* 10,000th published article.
(^v^)
you cut all fun from life my friend!
let us have a chance to cheer and dance, it's not so often on Wikinews !
May be it's time to have some thoughts about a Wikinews Convention in order to share some beer (wine or carote juice, don't mind) and ideas about the futur of Wikinews or more openly, about the role "citizen rapporteur" .
and have fun !
The "chance to cheer" is today, we just need nine articles and we can manage that. We can go for a big story as 10K published, or the craziest Wackynews, it is up to us - the contributors - how we mark the milestone.
Just don't make it anything to do with us having 10K articles.
Brian.
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The 10K published is http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australian_comedians_%22could_have_been_shot%22_ during_APEC_prank.
Expand, and harass Australian contributors to phone the Chaser folks for comments to add to http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/English_Wikinews_publishes_10000th_article
Brian.
-----Original Message----- From: wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikinews-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of jason safoutin Sent: 07 September 2007 03:56 To: Wikinews mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikinews-l] 10,000 articles on the English Wikinews
I agree with Brian actually now that its mentioned. Although I am not against an article on our 10,000th, it does seem "cheesey." We do need a big story though :)
DragonFire1024
Brian McNeil brian.mcneil@wikinewsie.org wrote:
:On Behalf Of divol
Le 6 sept. 07 à 12:42, Brian McNeil a écrit :
We're not there yet.
At my last check we have 10,004 articles in main namespace - of which 13 are still in development. Wikipedia doesn't have that distinction so we've got a little more work to establish which is *the* 10,000th published article.
(^v^)
you cut all fun from life my friend!
let us have a chance to cheer and dance, it's not so often on Wikinews !
May be it's time to have some thoughts about a Wikinews Convention in order to share some beer (wine or carote juice, don't mind) and ideas about the futur of Wikinews or more openly, about the role "citizen rapporteur" .
and have fun !
The "chance to cheer" is today, we just need nine articles and we can manage that. We can go for a big story as 10K published, or the craziest Wackynews, it is up to us - the contributors - how we mark the milestone.
Just don't make it anything to do with us having 10K articles.
Brian.
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