I've been wanting to submit something about Wikinews for Wikimania 2008, maybe under the header "Wikinews: citizen journalism at the crossroads". I've posted something on the watercooler some time ago: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler#Wikimania_2008 , with no response. If anyone wants to team up and submit something, let me know.
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> Brian McNeil wrote:
> Michael, I’d appreciate more details on this and, as I’m
> forwarding a copy of this to Mike Godwin, any links you’ve seen to press
> coverage of the case.
The case was brought on by 2 security agents of the railway company. They felt insulted because someone had written an article about alleged rough treatment by them, that they looked like "little playmobil robots". The judge ruled that although the author is not a "professional" journalist, he was still a journalist, because the term "needed to be interpreted in the broadest possible sense, taking into account the new media". This decision makes it a press case, which needs to go to a higher court, and there haven't been any cases against journalists for the last 30 years, because they have very little chance of succeeding.
There's no press coverage in English.
grtz, Steven Fruitsmaak
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This is a bit off-topic, but I think there may be wikinewsies with the
expertise for which I'm searching.
I will very soon be part of a group operating a local origination television
station (think "public access" with the potential for profit). Basically,
we'll be given a connection to the cable-office head-end and given free
reign to broadcast whatever we wish -- 20% of any revenue must be returned
to the cable provider. The station was previously operated by a single
individual running PowerPoint ads almost 24/7 (with the occasional local
sporting event/meeting). We'd like to offer more content (including some
news and Wikinews will be part of that). Any programming we produced will be
released under a free license or into the public domain. All of this is
background, I know, but I thought you might be interested.
Knowing there has been on-and-off discussion of Video Wikinews, I thought
some of you might have suggestions for:
* Video Editing Software (free)
* Broadcast Software & Hardware
* Other general tips/thoughts
I would prefer to free and open source software (because it's "free" and
because I want to promote the FOSS movement). None of us are hardcore
I appreciate your thoughts -- if this is terribly off-topic, please feel
free to reply to me off-list.
If someone are interested in reporting on cycling races organized by UCI,
please finish the media accreditation at the Registration Server above.
And there's 7 languages for you when registering for a media accreditation
at UCI's sever.
In countries such as the U.S. anyone can call themselves a member of the
press. With Wikinews accreditation I believe David Shankbone managed to
parlay that into membership of the New York Press Club, which even I've
heard of in this little backwater called Belgium.
Speaking of Belgium, where things are slightly different, you need a press
pass issued by the Ministry of the Interior. There are similar setups in
many other European countries. The rules for issue of these are that you
must make the majority of your income working as a journalist. My neighbour
works for "De Standaard" and has a pretty blue plaque for his car as well as
the coveted press pass.
However, as Michael [[User:StevenFruitsmaak]] was telling me last Friday,
there is some good news; this isn't how the courts view it. Michael is also
involved with IndyMedia Belgium and said that an IndyMedia reporter was
taken to court and won the case as the judge recognised him as a journalist.
This is a great precedent for all citizen journalists - including Wikinews.
Michael, I'd appreciate more details on this and, as I'm forwarding a copy
of this to Mike Godwin, any links you've seen to press coverage of the case.
On an unrelated note, Friday's meeting with the EFF saw us lacking something
- business cards. I can Photoshop together a template for people to use, the
key text will be "Wikinews Community Accredited Reporter" plus - obviously -
your wikinewsie email address. I want to ask Mike if we'll be fine using the
Wikinews logo on these, and as we're all poor I'm looking to exercise that
old suggestion that the Foundation will make funds available for some things
Can someone take a stab at working a bit on
I'm going to be busy a lot today with other things and worked 11 hours
yesterday. The audio of the interview is on the talk page. That needs
inserted with the player thingie and a description of the interview done to
fill out the article and extract quotes.
Sorry for the poor quality on the audio, StevenFruitsmaak didn't check the
settings on his MP3 recorder and attempts at noise removal made it sound
like everyone was talking through a metal pipe.
With the Foundation being somewhat conservative and it proving difficult to
get a board resolution fast-tracked Danny and Chad over on Veropedia have
started a petition against the EU copyright extension proposal.
I've linked to it from our water cooler, but that won't get other language
editions. If you're familiar with another language version of Wikinews
please consider reposting the link from the following URL on your wiki.
This isn't so much something that impacts Wikinews more than Commons and
Wikipedia, but I'd like to think when I look up the [[1812 overture]] on
Wikipedia I can get to listen to a version that has been done with a full
orchestra as opposed to some guy in his parent's basement with a
computer/synthesizer. I want to hear those cannons go boom!
The below message, and some private communications prompted me to contact
Erik Josefsson at the EFF in Brussels. I will be attending a meeting they're
holding this coming Friday along with Stevenfruitsmaak (Michael Laurent).
I already have email from Mike Godwin giving a somewhat terse statement
opposed to the EU proposal and have contacted the board chair to see if I
can get a resolution to take with me and add to the voices opposing this
measure. A similar measure was rejected in the UK recently and this just
looks like an attempt to bypass the UK saying no and imposing the measure
So... We'll be interviewing Erik Josefsson and covering their meeting, but I
think I'll have to leave that to Michael as my main role there will be as a
representative of the Communications Committee/WMF trying to find out how we
can work with the EFF to oppose this. Erik is - as I understand it - their
full time lobbyist dealing with issues in and around the EU folks.
So, questions for Erik are most welcome, the proposal will mostly impact
Commons where they could lose material that would otherwise fall into the
public domain. Please read and digest the below before asking though, and
see Erik's page on the EFF site:
Likely background research is Israel's recent changes to copyright law which
- IIRC - was a liberalisation rather than a more restrictive change. There's
also some discussion on foundation-l covering the issue. I'm assuming the
EFF will start a petition online about this, if/when they do please sign it
and promote it.
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of David
Sent: 14 February 2008 20:57
To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org; wikifr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Foundation-l] EU wants to increase musicians' and
singers'copyright to 95 years
The EU currently has two categories of copyright:
* The authors' rights, which elapse 70 years after the authors' death.
With respect to music, these applies to authors and composers.
* Performers' rights, which elapse 50 years after the recording.
Apparently, Charlie McCreevy, EU commissioner, would like to extend the
performers' copyright to 95 years after recording:
He claims that there are nowadays many musicians who recorded music in
their twenties and now do not earn money anymore from them. I do not see
how this justifies 95 years, for few people live to 115 years...
He also claims this would not make the prices of records rise, because
the prices for records out-of-copyright with respect to performers'
rights are the same as those within copyright.
That may be true, however, his project would be a hindrance for
Wikimedia projects. We currently can hope to find old recordings of
classical music, which have fallen into the public domain. These would
be very hard to find with 95 year terms.
Let us all oppose this move.
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