Just a heads up, there is a new irc channel ( #wikinews-spam on
freenode irc://irc.freenode.net/wikinews-spam )which records every
link insert on any language wikinews project.
Also the usual anti-vandal channels
#vandalism-en-wn (on freenode)
#vandalism-fr-wn (on freenode)
and on irc.wikimedia.org
#en.wikinews
#fr.wikinews
#<your lang code here>.wikinews
bawolff
I think we have had this accreditation conversation already, I can't
remember where (foundation-l? wikinews-l?) or when. Sorry.
The answer is very simple: For those countries where accreditation is
a legal matter (France is one of them), the Foundation, or the
chapters, cannot and will not give this accreditation.
For those countries where the whole accreditation process is more
open, then it could be imagined that the Wikinews community recognize
some people as "wiki journalists" or something.
Please remember that as soon as the organisation "endorses" any person
to contribute content to the projects, it puts itself in a "publisher"
kind of position, which we need to avoid at all costs, since the
organisation is *not* a publisher.
Delphine
On 4/23/07, Andre Engels <andreengels(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> 2007/4/23, Guillaume Paumier <guillom.pom(a)gmail.com>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Last week-end there was the first round of the French presidential election.
> > People from Wikimedia France have been working hard to attend meetings of
> > the candidates to take plenty of photos of them and other politicians or
> > artists supporting them. Wikimedia France has even issued a press release :
> > <
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CP_Couverture_%C3%A9lection>
> > and <
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:French_presidential_election_%28…>
> > (browse the subcategories).
> >
> > To get an official press card in France, more than 50% of your total income
> > must come from your activities as a journalist or photographer <
> > http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carte_de_presse_en_France>.
> > Photographers and reporters from Wikimedia projects can obviously not get
> > this precious pass. Though, an accreditation letter from an institution
> > (along with a professional camera and a big amount of self-confidency) can
> > be enough.
> >
> > I know the English-language Wikinews provides such accreditations for
> > reporters. The French-language one doesn't. We have been forced to contact
> > each party and request temporary press passes for each meeting. Although we
> > are very proud of what we have accomplished, it would be great if we had
> > some accreditation letters as photographers. Should they come from Wikinews?
> > Commons? Dunno.
> >
> > Browsing through the archives of Wikinews Water cooler, I have found this
> > discussion :
> > http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/Archive/15#Accredi…
> >
> > Has there been any follow-up about this issue? If not, could we work on it?
>
> It seems to me that the accreditation can only be done by a legal
> entity, and thus the accreditor at least formally should be the
> Wikimedia Foundation or its French chapter. Of course they could leave
> the decision as to who to actually completely dependent on the advise
> by Commons or Wikinews or whatever. For PR reasons I think it would be
> good to have 'Wikipedia' written on the accreditations (along with
> Wikinews and Commons, and of course the WMF) - It's much better known
> than the other projects, and thus could give an air of seriousness to
> the user that otherwise he would not have.
>
>
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Hello,
Last week-end there was the first round of the French presidential election.
People from Wikimedia France have been working hard to attend meetings of
the candidates to take plenty of photos of them and other politicians or
artists supporting them. Wikimedia France has even issued a press release :
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/CP_Couverture_%C3%A9lection> and <
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:French_presidential_election_%28…>
(browse the subcategories).
To get an official press card in France, more than 50% of your total income
must come from your activities as a journalist or photographer <
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carte_de_presse_en_France>. Photographers and
reporters from Wikimedia projects can obviously not get this precious pass.
Though, an accreditation letter from an institution (along with a
professional camera and a big amount of self-confidency) can be enough.
I know the English-language Wikinews provides such accreditations for
reporters. The French-language one doesn't. We have been forced to contact
each party and request temporary press passes for each meeting. Although we
are very proud of what we have accomplished, it would be great if we had
some accreditation letters as photographers. Should they come from Wikinews?
Commons? Dunno.
Browsing through the archives of Wikinews Water cooler, I have found this
discussion :
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy/Archive/15#Accredi…
Has there been any follow-up about this issue? If not, could we work on it?
--
Guillaume Paumier
[[m:User:guillom]]
"Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined." Henry David Thoreau
Bonjour,
Je viens de recevoir un appel de l'attachée de presse de José Bové ; elle
nous a cordialement invité à envoyer un photographe ou un reporter (ou les
deux) à la soirée électorale qui a lieu ce soir à La Bellevilloise, 19 rue
Boyer, Paris 20 (métro Gambetta ou Ménilmontant)
Plus de détails sur la soirée :
http://www.unisavecbove.org/spip.php?article3025
N'hésitez pas à me contacter pour que je vous donne les coordonnées de cette
dame ; c'est un bon signe si maintenant ce sont les organisations politiques
qui nous invitent, et pas nous qui devons les démarcher.
--
Guillaume Paumier
[[m:User:guillom]]
"Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined." Henry David Thoreau
Hi,
I'm one of the administrators and accredited reported on Wikinews. We've
just unearthed a problem with one of our stories being plagiarized from
another source. Unfortunately, you've mirrored it.
Your version is at
http://www.ecanadanow.com/us/2007/04/18/candle-light-vigil-for-victims-of-vi
rginia-tech-shootings/
Our version at
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Candlelight_vigil_for_victims_of_Virginia_Tech_s
hootings will be deleted.
And for comparison, http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=6385852 the
original.
Regrettably, this is one of the risks when allowing editing by anyone. The
contributor responsible is new, and the problems he has caused will be
explained to him. My apologies we didn't catch this before you copied our
story, we appreciate having mirrors that expose our material in Google News.
Regards,
Brian McNeil
I would like to remind those of you who are bloggers to consider
joining Planet Wikimedia, which has grown nicely in recent weeks:
http://en.planet.wikimedia.org/
(Polish also active, German about to go live)
It shows recent wiki-tagged posts from Wikimedians on one page. You
can add your blog by putting a request for inclusion on:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Planet_Wikimedia
Included blogs should tag their wiki-related posts, or be exclusively
about the topic. This policy has made Planet Wikimedia, in my opinion,
highly on topic and useful, and I would love to see it scale to
hundreds of blogs eventually. Hence, no exceptions. ;-)
For those of you from smaller projects: Think of this as an excellent
opportunity to promote the best work your project is doing, to get new
people excited about it. As an example of this principle, take a look
what some English Wikinewsies are doing in the "Original Reporting"
group blog: http://wikinewsreports.blogspot.com/
If you don't have a blog yet, you can set one up easily, e.g. at:
http://wordpress.com/ or http://blogger.com
--
Peace & Love,
Erik
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free and exciting is waking up." -- Ming the Mechanic
Useful new CC-BY-SA resource supported by the Knight Foundation:
http://makeinternettv.org/
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Peace & Love,
Erik
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Just a heads up, their is currently a vote on wikinews as to weather
or not to allow flash videos. And my browser doesn't like me today,
and won't let me copy and paste the link :(
Okay, and why?
On 4/14/07, wikinews-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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Sincerely, Nanook
From: Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia.com>
>What is the license on the music?
I have permission to use extracts from the Track "When You're Down" under CC-BY
Jason has fallen foul of "easier to ask forgiveness than permission", mainly
because I was not clear enough in IRC.
Anything uploaded to Commons should be deleted until I've got approved bits to
go up and be used. Then people can go back to cutting songs in mid-bar.
Brian McNeil.