Agreed. Something more like personal opinions I'd say.
which does not mean it has no weight... but it is just
not a board decision ;-)
ant
--- Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > any new language will be announced 7 days in
> advance on wikinews-l
>
> Anthere wrote:
> > Correction please
> > I think this has been agreed with Jimbo and
> Angela, not with the board.
>
> Well, the exact conversation was as follows, so
> there wasn't an
> explicit objection made to the suggestion by any of
> the board.
>
> Jimmy wrote:
> > > How about a mailing list announcement on
> Wikipedia-l? Or something like
> > > that? Foundation-l? Both?
>
> Angela wrote:
> > I remember this was done for Ukranian and some
> earlier ones. I don't
> > know if it was done for later ones.
> >
>
http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-March/002611.html
>
> Angela.
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Correction please
I think this has been agreed with Jimbo and Angela, not with the board.
Anthere
Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de> wrote:
After a brief e-mail discussion with the Board, we have agreed to a
minor change to the language creation policy, namely that any new
language will be announced 7 days in advance on wikinews-l and
foundation-l to give people another chance to object. (In this
particular case, the argument is about whether the Yugoslavian languages
should be separate or not.)
All best,
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With the required support, and after the basic pages were prepared on
Meta, I have set up a Serbian edition of Wikinews at:
http://sr.wikinews.org/
For this edition I've asked one of the most active proponents of Serbian
Wikinews, User:Dcabrilo, to make the announcement in the Serbian
community instead of doing it myself.
The next editions are likely to be Catalan and Russian.
All best,
Erik
I'd just quickly like to point out that the low output of stories on the
different Wikinews editions in the last few days is the direct result of
the recent server slowness. This is not meant as a complaint, but as an
explanation, since people are quick to judge the success of the project
by how many stories they see on any given day.
Our editors are literally queuing up to post stories, but it's very hard
to even get page views at the moment. I understand that this will change
as the 20 new servers are set up and configured. Nevertheless, this will
certainly have a substantial impact on this month's growth. C'est la vie.
Erik
On 5/15/05, Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> This policy seems very reasonable to me. I am happy you found a solution
> to be able to upload images necessary to illustrate wikinews articles...
> all while limiting related risks with competitors. This is good.
>
> I hope other languages will soon follow as well.
I agree with Anthere on this, and it seems safe enough to enable
uploads now as long as the community is happy with the policy.
Angela.
no, the fair use media repository will be independant for each language. The reason being each project might take a different stance on it.
Remember that using fair use image is here to support information, but it is not our goal to provide content with restricted use. We should avoid it whenever necessary
Cheers
Ant
"jacques.divol" <jacques.divol(a)laposte.net> wrote:
hi,
Just a "newbye" question.
Is the "Upload fair use media" repository unique for all language wiki
or is there One repository per language.
More simple (sorry i lack real english practice) : if I want to use a
"fair use media" presents into en.wikinews, do I need to copy/paste the
stuff in the french realm or do I have a direct link from the froggy
(choose an another) wikinews to the english wikinews ????
I love commons for that reason : one repository for ALL wikis. (don't
love border or ghetto sorry :)
jacques Divol
from the french part of the force ...
...
... (who said black ?????, ;))))
Le 19 mai 05, � 00:27, Erik Moeller a �crit :
> With the agreement of the Board, I have enabled local uploads on the
> English edition of Wikinews.
>
> I ask other language editions that are interested in fair use to
> formulate a similar whitelist policy for cases in which fair use
> should be allowed. The emphasis is on *whitelist* - any case not
> covered by the policy should be quickly deleted.
>
> Once a policy is developed, please report it on foundation-l or
> wikinews-l to move forward with enabling local uploads. A brief
> summary of your policy in English would be very helpful.
>
> For reference, the English fair use policy is at:
> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Fair_use
>
> As before, the Wikimedia Commons should be used for any free content
> media.
>
> All best,
>
> Erik
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Hello,
I have shortly been talking to Amgine on irc about the
new policy, as well as read it.
This policy seems very reasonable to me. I am happy
you found a solution to be able to upload images
necessary to illustrate wikinews articles... all while
limiting related risks with competitors. This is good.
I hope other languages will soon follow as well.
Good luck. Anthere
Erik Moeller a �crit:
I would like to re-enable local uploads on the English
Wikinews for the purpose of fair use image uploads
only. We have worked in the last few weeks on a
whitelist policy for cases where we believe fair use
to be acceptable:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Fair_use
This includes screenshots, publicity photos explicitly
intended for the media, logos, and images under
"semi-free" licenses which we might get under a fully
free license eventually, but where a breaking news
situation requires us to make a temporary compromise.
This is very important for us; we've already had to
delete screenshots that showed a security flaw scooped
by Wikinews because they were non-free and therefore
not allowed on the Commons.
For now, there would be two upload links, "Upload
media" and "Upload fair use media", one pointing to
the Commons, the other to the local upload page. In
MediaWiki 1.5, we can point "Upload file" to the
Wikimedia Commons, and hide local uploads from the
navigation. That way, we can apply "security by
obscurity". Only people who read the fair use policy
will find the local upload link.
I'd like to ask the Board to register any objections
within the next week or so. If there are none, I would
also recommend that the other language editions follow
a similar procedure to develop their own local fair
use policies, so we can re-enable local uploads on
these editions one by one.
Eri
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There is an interesting new overview of 4 grassroots journalism projects
written by Chris Anderson. The projects are Indymedia UK, Northwest
Voice, OhMyNews and Wikinews.
http://docs.indymedia.org/twiki/pub/Main/ChrisAnderson/GrassrootsJournalism…
The report takes a very critical view of Wikinews, primarily because of
its comparatively low number of articles which include original
reporting (it incorrectly characterizes the other articles as
"reprints"). This is a familiar criticism, and my response to it will be
familiar as well to many of you. Nevertheless, I will devote some space
to this in my next State of the Wiki report.
All best,
Erik
Hi,
I hope this is the appropriate place for me to pose
this question.
I've noticed there is a news feed available for the
main stories. Are there any plans to do something
similar for, say sports stories, or would anyone take
issue with me doing such a thing myself (and sharing
it with others, of course!)
Longer term is there anyone looking on a way produce
categorised news feeds?
Thanks,
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Like Amgine, and most or all of the other Wikinews enthusiasts I've spoken
with, I'm eager to see Wikinews under a CC-BY license. (I would prefer
public domain if I didn't trust Larry Lessig's opinion on legal matters a
billion times more than my own.)
Regarding the CC-WIKI license, has the Share-Alike clause been addressed?
The most recent draft of CC-WIKI (http://creativecommons.org/drafts/wiki_0.5)
includes a Share-Alike clause that I don't think we want, although I
personally wouldn't mind it.
I'm also fine with the migration clause, by the way, though I would like to
hear a confirmation of Robin Shannon's understanding:
"If I understand correctly, the material would still be licensed CC-BY
so Wikimedia could not declare it All Rights Reserved"
Back to "ferreting out false postings,"
Brandon, who has briefly escaped the sweeping pings that normally plague
him.