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RSS blog hack and logo problem
by TOR 19 Jun '05

19 Jun '05

As you may or may not be aware of the English Edition of Wikinews used a simple little hack to get RSS feed support for it's news releases. Namely - they use a blogspot account and add posts containing links to wikinews articles, which then appear on the RSS feed, just as normal blog posts do. See http://wikinewslatestnews.blogspot.com/ I decided to use the same workaround to get RSS support on the Polish Edition. But, seeing how the Wikinews feed looks like when compared to BBC World's (BBC feeds copy their regular page design, ours lack any design whatsoever) I though I should take a bit of a more professional approach. So I copied our monobook design and, after a few tweaks, got this: http://wikinews.blog.pl/ The major issue here is the logo. It implies that this site *is* Wikinews, which it is not, obviously. Angela proposed that we modify the logo a bit, so that it reads something like "content from Wikinews" or some such. There are two reasons I'm bothering you with this: 1) To mobilize you to improve the design of the blogspot page ;) 2) To get some feedback on the possible wording of the modified logo (obviously, the one given above is rather clumsy) and, if anybody's willing to give it a try, see some graphic realisations of it -- Best regards, TOR <tor(a)oak.rpg.pl>

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Intent to launch: Russian, Japanese Wikinews
by Erik Moeller 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

As per the previously noted agreement, I hereby announce the intent to set up the Russian and Japanese editions of Wikinews. Both meet the formal requirements and have translated the key pages. Should there be no specific objections, I will do so in 7 days or later. Best, Erik

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wikinews audio publicity. Someone envolved please respond
by Robin Shannon 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

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WORTNET: Translate original reporting into many languages
by Erik Moeller 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Wikinews tries to summarize all the major news of the day and, in the process of doing so, will usually have to rely on existing sources. This, as I have emphasized many times, is a useful service: it can reduce bias, provide a synthesis of key facts from many different sources, and contribute to a "news commons" that can be used by anyone for any purpose, free of charge. However, the real strength of Wikinews is that we allow and encourage anyone on the planet to go out and report events that happen around them from a neutral point of view. They will almost certainly do so in their native language. Hence, I consider it essential that we *systematically* translate existing Wikinews stories containing original reporting into as many languages as possible. To this end, I have started this project: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WORTNET (Wikinews Original Reporting Translation Network :-) If you speak more than one language, please sign up as a translator. You can either actively go out and search for stories that contain original reporting, or you can wait to be notified by others to translate stories. I think this could also boost the number of stories containing original reporting we publish every day and provide a more global perspective for each of the projects. So, your support in getting this off the ground would be very much welcome. In addition to signing up, please announce this initiative in your local edition. It is also essential that each Wikinews edition has an original reporting template and category similar to this one: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template%3AOriginal_reporting Please help to establish consistent standards for this. This makes it possible to locate stories containing original reporting, and to clearly identify the OR component (using a "/Notes" subpage; see template). In the English version, I have also directly added a link to WORTNET, it might be a good idea to do the same in the other languages. All best, Erik

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Wikinews radio
by Erik Moeller 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

I am posting this to foundation-l and wikitech-l, because there is both a technical and a policy aspect here. A small but growing group of Wikinews contributors is actively making audio recordings of Wikinews stories. This effort is coordinated here: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Audio_Wikinews The files are uploaded to the Commons in Ogg Vorbis format. Now, two members of this group have started to also produce a streamed version of this, which is broadcast at specific times -- effectively Internet radio. This could grow into a real independent wikiradio project which perhaps could encompass more than just news. The usefulness of realtime broadcasting for news should be obvious. The current Wikinews page is at: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:WikiNews_Network Now, here is our dilemma: Streaming audio in realtime requires special software. WNN currently uses ShoutCast, which is not free/open source software. It is also not hosted on Wikimedia's servers, but on the server of one of our contributors. (We have the same issue with the print edition, but I'll try to resolve this separately.) Do we want to run this on our own servers? If so, there is a free software implementation called Icecast. Would it be possible to securely set up an Icecast server for this purpose on our hardware? If we don't want to run it on our servers, should we allow it to be called "Wikinews Network", or should it use a different name? Should we set any specific limits for the project's scope beyond NPOV, or should we let it experiment freely with the format for the time being? (There was some talk about ads on the program, but I made it clear that this was absolutely impossible.) As for NPOV, a wiki-radio project might want to broadcast news *about* the wiki community; do these have to strictly adhere to NPOV (the German Wikipedia:Kurier, for example, does not)? Best, Erik

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WN status
by Tomasz Sienicki 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Any comments on the following exchange from #wikinews? tsca> hi tsca> Are they any plans as to when WN switches from PD to CC? Pechorin> tsca, as soon as we lose the beta status tsca> which is when...? Pechorin> there is no set date tsca> or is this something noone knows? Pechorin> nobody knows for sure Pechorin> but, "soon, but not next week" :) tsca> see: it is nice to see WN stories used by other services. However, it would be even nicer to see them attributed to WN. Pechorin> I agree tsca> we have this section 'sources'. When an article is copied to another service, the section remains and looks like the article was produced from those sources by this service. Especially when they put their (c) on the page tsca> perhaps the beta status lingers simply because noone's made a move on the mailing list and proposed finally changing it yet? Pechorin> tsca, you can always try --[[m:user:tsca]]

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Re: [Wikinews-l] Re: Wikinews language creation policy (was: Serbian Wikinews set up)
by Anthere 26 May '05

26 May '05

Agreed. Something more like personal opinions I'd say. which does not mean it has no weight... but it is just not a board decision ;-) ant --- Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > any new language will be announced 7 days in > advance on wikinews-l > > Anthere wrote: > > Correction please > > I think this has been agreed with Jimbo and > Angela, not with the board. > > Well, the exact conversation was as follows, so > there wasn't an > explicit objection made to the suggestion by any of > the board. > > Jimmy wrote: > > > How about a mailing list announcement on > Wikipedia-l? Or something like > > > that? Foundation-l? Both? > > Angela wrote: > > I remember this was done for Ukranian and some > earlier ones. I don't > > know if it was done for later ones. > > > http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2005-March/002611.html > > Angela. > _______________________________________________ > Wikinews-l mailing list > Wikinews-l(a)Wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [Wikinews-l] Re: Wikinews language creation policy (was: Serbian Wikinews set up)
by Anthere 26 May '05

26 May '05

Correction please I think this has been agreed with Jimbo and Angela, not with the board. Anthere Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de> wrote: After a brief e-mail discussion with the Board, we have agreed to a minor change to the language creation policy, namely that any new language will be announced 7 days in advance on wikinews-l and foundation-l to give people another chance to object. (In this particular case, the argument is about whether the Yugoslavian languages should be separate or not.) All best, Erik _______________________________________________ Wikinews-l mailing list Wikinews-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikinews-l __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Serbian Wikinews set up
by Erik Moeller 26 May '05

26 May '05

With the required support, and after the basic pages were prepared on Meta, I have set up a Serbian edition of Wikinews at: http://sr.wikinews.org/ For this edition I've asked one of the most active proponents of Serbian Wikinews, User:Dcabrilo, to make the announcement in the Serbian community instead of doing it myself. The next editions are likely to be Catalan and Russian. All best, Erik

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Wikinews and slow servers
by Erik Moeller 23 May '05

23 May '05

I'd just quickly like to point out that the low output of stories on the different Wikinews editions in the last few days is the direct result of the recent server slowness. This is not meant as a complaint, but as an explanation, since people are quick to judge the success of the project by how many stories they see on any given day. Our editors are literally queuing up to post stories, but it's very hard to even get page views at the moment. I understand that this will change as the 20 new servers are set up and configured. Nevertheless, this will certainly have a substantial impact on this month's growth. C'est la vie. Erik

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